The Instigator
vi_spex
Pro (for)
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The Contender
400spartans
Con (against)
Winning
2 Points

plus is minus, and plus and minus is cause and effect, logic

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400spartans
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/11/2014 Category: Science
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 505 times Debate No: 66774
Debate Rounds (5)
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vi_spex

Pro

equal is where im holding my hand in front of me, plus is where i can move my hand to, and minus is how my hand got to where it is, and where ever my hand is, is equal. i equal because i can plus and minus

giving is taking, and taking is giving.

you cant give me an apple, without taking an apple from somewhere
400spartans

Con

I'll just let this first round be for acceptance.

Comment "Yes" if you want me in poor grammar mode.

Comment "No" if you want me to use grammar correctly.
Debate Round No. 1
vi_spex

Pro

use what ever grammar you want
400spartans

Con

I am typing on a computer. I am "giving" letters to the screen without taking them from somewhere else.

Your turn...
Debate Round No. 2
vi_spex

Pro

you press the key down, adding a letter, where as misusing while adding with the movement of your finger

light on your screen dosnt come from some where?

there is no information in a computer, just matter
400spartans

Con

Okay. Since this didn't really go anywhere, on to Plan B.

Giving isn't the same as taking. Giving just implies taking.

It is like saying punching is hurting. This is not the case. Punching implies hurting.

Same thing with giving and taking. When I give something to you, it implies you "taking" something from me.
Debate Round No. 3
vi_spex

Pro

punching is adding and retracting at the same time, you add motion and as you do that you move your arm from where it was

how can you give me an apple, if you didn't take it somewhere?
400spartans

Con

Pro has obviously ignored my whole point. What I'm saying is that giving just implies taking.

When I give you an apple, that implies that I took it from somewhere.
Debate Round No. 4
vi_spex

Pro

there can be no cause without effect, and no effect without cause.

cause is effect, and effect is cause, as they cant exist without each other

giving is taking, as i cant give without taking, and i cant take, without giving

giving me the apple, is taking it from somewhere.
400spartans

Con

Again, Pro has ignored my whole point.

"giving is taking, as i cant give without taking, and i cant take, without giving"

This is false. Giving implies taking and taking implies giving.

Vote Con!
Debate Round No. 5
8 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 8 records.
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
a cause that isn't caused by another cause didn't get caused as a cause that didn't cause anything, isn't a cause :)
Posted by Wylted 2 years ago
Wylted
Not every cause is caused by another cause. If that was the case than non existence would be the state of things.
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
assumptions based on religious faith and trust to the religion of mechanical technology
Posted by ELDRITCH 2 years ago
ELDRITCH
I'd debate this guy, but he has a track record of poor grammar and presenting his misunderstandings of basic math concepts as revolutionary innovations. Plus, his explanations are incoherent.
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
too easy=too true
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
any cause is caused by another cause
Posted by Wylted 2 years ago
Wylted
Too easy.
Posted by Rubikx 2 years ago
Rubikx
I have no idea what to even say here... whats the debate about? Honestly this doesn't even make sense let alone have any sort of topic worth debating.
1 votes has been placed for this debate.
Vote Placed by FaustianJustice 2 years ago
FaustianJustice
vi_spex400spartansTied
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Reasons for voting decision: It would go miles for Pro to define something in more than just hand gestures.