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mr-beetroot
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Yassine
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popeye could beat superman and goku at the same time

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Yassine
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/26/2015 Category: TV
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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mr-beetroot

Pro

so popeye gets his power from spinach. i argue that if you injected the pure form of the ingredient in spinach that gives him strength he would be powerful enough to beat goku and superman and put an end to this debate of superman and goku.

in terms of training popeye is a sailor which means he is often in drunken brawls and fights against pirates and other strong people in his adventures, this prowess and experience in hand to hand combat would give him the edge on superman and goku.

popeye is also not a wus, every time he gets knocked down another dose of concentrated pure spinach completely heals him and picks him up again meaning he could eat unlimited amounts of it because his body immediately digests it and turns it into muscle. this gives popeye the advantage of being invincible because he could just eat spinach constantly and never get hurt. it is like the hulk effect in which you just get progressively stronger as the fight goes on. popeye is only limited by the speed at which he can ingest spinach so i propose that if he were to be put into a bane like contraption he could be constantly fed huge amounts of spinach directly into his bloodstream for the fastest absorption.

as a result of this infinite power and invincibility i propose that he would beat them both at the same time.
Yassine

Con

I thank Pro for instigating this debate, & I accept his challenge & hope we both share a good time.



Resolution:



Characters:


- Popeye >>> this guy:




> Goku & Superman >>> these guys:




BOP:


- The burden of proof is on Pro to prove that indeed it is possible for Popeye to beat Superman & Goku at the same time.




Popeye vs. Goku:



Goku’s Power:


- Goku is a planet-buster class:

1. Kid Buu was able to destroy planet Earth with his Planet Burst [1].
2. Kid Buu is a planet-buster.
3. Goku’s technic, Super Spirit Bomb, is more powerful than Planet Burst [2].
=> Therefore, Goku is a planet-buster class.


The Physics:


-The Data:
(1) The energy required to bust a planet (namely the Earth) is ~ 10^(32)J ( “~” representing equivalence in order of magnitude) [3].
(2) The nutritional energy per 1kg of Spinach is ~ 10^(3)kJ [4].
(3) The mass of the Earth is ~ 10^(24)kg [5].
(4) The age of the Universe is ~ 10^(10) years [6].
(5) World production of Spinach is ~ 10^(10)kg of yearly output [7].

-The Maths: the amount of Spinach needed to bust a planet is (1)/(2) ~ 10^(26)kg which is:
> ~ 100 times the Earth’s mass.
> ~ 10^(16) = 10,000,000,000,000,000 times the Earth’s yearly output of Spinach.
> ~ 1,000,000 times the age of the Universe worth of output.


The Battle:


- For Popeye to hope to defeat Goku, he has to at least be a planet-buster class. Which will require him to digest 100 times the Earth’s mass worth of Spinach, for 1,000,000 times the age of the Universe! Both of which are physically impossible!



Rebuttals:



in terms of training popeye is a sailor which means he is often in drunken brawls and fights against pirates and other strong people in his adventures, this prowess and experience in hand to hand combat would give him the edge on superman and goku.

- Goku/Superman & Popeye are worlds apart when it comes to fighting experience! Goku was taught martial arts from a very young age by his ‘grand-father’ & by Master Roshi, he was a finalist in the World Tournament at 14, & he then battled the strongest beings in the Universe (Frieza, Cell, Buu, Bills. . .), not some ‘pirates’!


popeye is also not a wus

- & Goku is?!!



Conclusion:



- It is utterly hopeless for Popeye to defeat Goku, for that is physically impossible! Let alone defeat both Superman & Goku at the same time. Thus Pro’s resolution is negated & I win the debate.


=> Vote Con.




Sources:



[1] http://dragonball.wikia.com...

[2] http://dragonball.wikia.com...
[3] http://physics.stackexchange.com...
[4] http://en.wikipedia.org...
[5] http://en.wikipedia.org...
[6] http://en.wikipedia.org...
[7] http://en.wikipedia.org...
Debate Round No. 1
mr-beetroot

Pro

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Debate Round No. 2
mr-beetroot

Pro

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Debate Round No. 3
mr-beetroot

Pro

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Debate Round No. 4
mr-beetroot

Pro

mr-beetroot forfeited this round.
Yassine

Con

Extend.


=> Vote Con.
Debate Round No. 5
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Vote Placed by The-Voice-of-Truth 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Full FF, so the Conduct point goes to Con, and Args go to Con because he brings forth an effective counter-case, and Pro did not defend his arguments at all. Sources to Con, as he used the only sources.
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Reasons for voting decision: FF. Sad, this could have been a fun one.
Vote Placed by Blade-of-Truth 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Conduct - Con. Pro forfeited a majority of the rounds in this debate. This is rarely acceptable conduct in any debate setting, thus Con wins conduct. S&G - Con. Pro failed to use proper capitalization in the one round he participated in. Con had no such errors, thus Con wins S&G. Arguments - Con. Con utterly destroyed Pro in this debate. This was made apparent with his arguments showing that it was literally impossible for Popeye to even have enough Spinach in the first place to beat Goku and Superman. Furthermore, Pro never rebutted any of Con's arguments, which was a failure by Pro to maintain his BOP within this debate. Con was also able to effectively rebut the only substantial argument made by Pro. All in all, this is a clear win for Con in regards to arguments. Sources - Con. Pro failed to utilize sources whereas Con used several to support his arguments. This is a clear, 7 point win for Con.