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vi_spex
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Lee001
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reality is unbelieved

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Lee001
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/1/2015 Category: Science
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (5)
Comments (19)
Votes (1)

 

vi_spex

Pro

unknown is aLien, god, ghosts, in other Words, the dead

if god is true, whatever god i imagine is still false..
Lee001

Con

Thank you for starting this debate.

You claim: "If god is true, whatever god I imagine is still false..."

Many cultures choose to believe in different gods such a Jesus Christ, Virgin Mother Mary, Allah and Muhammed his profit.

Every person chooses to believe what they believe, Therefore they believe in their own god.
Debate Round No. 1
vi_spex

Pro

i said imagine, not believe

even if god was true and he stood infront of you to shae your hand, imagining him would still be not be the true god..
Lee001

Con

If you were to physically touch him, it is true.
If you go to heaven and see him, tis true
Debate Round No. 2
vi_spex

Pro

i agree, i dont see the conflict thou

if i had a teleporter and a pony, i could drop the pony on your head in 1 second
Lee001

Con

No you couldn't you said whatever you imagine is false, you cannot drop a pony on my head physically because your imagining it, therfore your claim is false.
Debate Round No. 3
vi_spex

Pro

if is absolute, but whatever i imagine is still false, imaginary, not matter
Lee001

Con

Your imagining something, false such as the pony, that whole claim was imaginary, so your still wrong.
Debate Round No. 4
vi_spex

Pro

not if i had a teleporter and a pony... just like if god is true then i can shake his hand
Lee001

Con

I told you I you could shake his hand in round 2. Thanks for agreeing with me.
The pony is irrelevant.
Thanks for the debate!:D
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
without my perception of a future and a past, i cant be selfaware
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
i can use them seperatly. imagination and belief, i mean imagine without believing, but if i cant imagine anything i cant believe, and if i cant believe i cant imagine
Posted by UndeniableReality 2 years ago
UndeniableReality
I have a false about what you knowledge.
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
belief=future=false=Imagination
know=now=
knowledge
Posted by UndeniableReality 2 years ago
UndeniableReality
It's just semantics, really.
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
reality can not be believed, and reality can not be unknown
Posted by Valkrin 2 years ago
Valkrin
When you say "reality is unbelief" are you referring to reality itself being the lack of belief, or people not believing in reality?
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
the opposite of physical is mental, there is no other option, its either true or not
Posted by Esiar 2 years ago
Esiar
God*
Posted by Esiar 2 years ago
Esiar
"imagination is not a thing, Things are physical"
You cannot apply this to Gd then. He is non-physcial/immaterial.
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Vote Placed by bsh1 2 years ago
bsh1
vi_spexLee001Tied
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Reasons for voting decision: Vi Spex needs to work on his clarity. I am giving Con the win because I understood her train of thought more--she better conveyed her arguments/