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bakr.haltam
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rafalaf
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should counties eleminate borders and try to start a unified government for one giant country?

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Started: 6/1/2015 Category: Politics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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bakr.haltam

Pro

how would we do this and why should we do this?
rafalaf

Con

Well just to clarify, one gigantic country would not work. First of all I would like to see you try to unify America with Russia, Then Isis with any other country on Earth. Anyway there would be too much argueing about what type of Government they should have, and about what laws there would be, etc, etc. Also since America has banned slavery that doesn't mean other countries didn't. So what I'm trying to say is that because they satrted argueing, they started a World War/Civil War. If i were them I would just try to leave all the borders be, because currently America isn't paying attention to much of the worlds problems, and they should keep it that way.
Debate Round No. 1
bakr.haltam

Pro

how about united continents? so instead of many countries in Europe there would be the one country of Europe. kind of like the European union now but better.
so there would be 7 continental countries... northa America, South America, Europe, middle east, Africa, Asia, and Pacific/Australia.
what im trying to say that currently there are too many small countries and while most are surviving on their own just fine, they're not thriving like a larger country such as the US or Russia.
take a country like jordan of the middle east for example. its population is around 7 million not counting new refugees. now they are undergoing a huge water shortage with (little underground water left). they wanted to build a water desalination plant which costs around 6-7 billion for that county but their entire GDP is only 24 billion dollars. if they were a part of a middle eastern union it would be easier to deal with this sort of problem all across the middle east. same go for countries in Africa and hat not.
rafalaf

Con

True but then Isis would have to be eliminated because it will kill any one in Asia that isn't Islamic and then move on to other continents, taking advantage of the new arrangement. Though killing of Isis will need the work of all the continents, and to do that you need one gigantic union or country which wouldn't work out since what i said in round 1. So doing that wouldn't be easy. but I agree some smaller countries should unify.
Debate Round No. 2
bakr.haltam

Pro

if a country unifies than the first thing to go will be factions like isis, or to give another example Mexican drug cartels who cause a lot of trouble for Mexico and their citizen. the list of extremists can go on for a while unfortunately...
but if there was a unified Iraq or lets say the middle eastern region united than a pest like isis will be dissolved quite quickly. as for religious differences there will be some at first, but if you look at countries like the united states or europe, living together peacefully is not a problem for most people. yes you will have some extremists from all religions saying its impossible but the truth to the matter is the average joe couldn't care less about their religious differences.
i think a united world needs to happen in the future, we are all humans and we share similar foundations and dreams. borders are just another way to make us feel diffrent/sepprate from those who do not live in theirs. people from Mexico are called Mexicans and people from Russia are called Russians. we are all people no matter where we come from and until we stop feeling isolated from one another wars could very well continue to go on.
but in order for this to happen i don't think people should be forced into joining a country but rather they take the initiative and want to unite (conquering doesn't work anymore)
to give an example if isolation... the ottoman empire survived for over a hundred years ruling parts of erope, middle east, north Africa, and Asia. while in their glory days it was a diverse nation much like the united states today... but during ts last 200 years or so the turks became interested i the turkish ethnic group and original boarders they occupy. so they started to rule biased making the Europeans, asians and arabs work realy hard to develope the turkish area and not do anything in the peoples lands in return. for examples no schools or social programs were available to the Europeans, arabs, etc. of corse the people did not like that and eventually the ottoman empire fell from revolt during ww1
rafalaf

Con

I think we should completely rearrange the world making only superpowers. so theoretically nobody is a superpower since an average country would be a today's superpower. Also the UN would be necessary to be a country. This way we theoretically have one country though Each country has different rules, but the UN might have some required laws such as no thievery, or murders.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by bakr.haltam 1 year ago
bakr.haltam
there is good and bad people in every religion. I like to tell people not to judge religion on people's actions, but rather on the principle they teach
Posted by mfigurski80 1 year ago
mfigurski80
Minecrafty-person
Right now you're hating on the religious christians, and they aren't doing anything to you here. Tell me, who started it? I'm really more worried about missinformed people like you, who don't even realize they just denounced their own actions.
Posted by Minecraftiscewl 1 year ago
Minecraftiscewl
I think that rafalaf has posed a good problem, and also I would like to add that it would become a war between Secularists, Conservative Christians, and Conservative Muslims very quickly. Eventually it would get bloody, considering Christians say stuff like let's round up all the Atheists and Secular Humanists and put them in concentration camps.
Posted by rafalaf 1 year ago
rafalaf
Well most Americans hate Putin not Russia.
Posted by Russia_The_almighty 1 year ago
Russia_The_almighty
America and Russia could be good friends. I think it will happen eventually. But not for a while. Most American hate Russian and vice versa.
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