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LOLELEL
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Grovenshar
Pro (for)

should it be allowed to force kids into religion

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Started: 3/7/2017 Category: Religion
Updated: 10 months ago Status: Debating Period
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LOLELEL

Con

some kids think differently and dont believe in these stupid ways to give false hopes and take peoples money some like me are athiest
Grovenshar

Pro

There's two serious problems with your argument:

1. Freedom
There's no way that you could make it illegal to do such a thing without removing people's freedom of religion. If people can't raise their kids in a way that they deem as moral, then that's ultimately too much control from the government.

2. Truth
In your argument, you state that these are "stupid ways to give false hopes and take peoples money." Unfortunately, there is no such thing as objective reality when it comes to determining whether there is or isn't a God, nor is there any way to determine for certain that the universe began one way or another. The best you can do is limit the ways that it did start, and then believe however you want to believe. As for the taking of people's money, we have to keep in mind that some of this money doesn't just line the coffers of some televangelist. In fact, hospitals like St. Mary's and St. Jude's wouldn't exist without the church, nor would several other charities such as Habitat for Humanity. So, in reality, we have to keep in mind that this isn't the stealing of people's money in every case. In many cases, it's true that televangelists and other shady characters do take this money. However, unilaterally declaring all of the church's functions to be based on the thievery of money is a bit of an exaggeration.
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Posted by Kylie.Cunningham 10 months ago
Kylie.Cunningham
You shouldn't force someone to do something. If they believe then yeah go ahead but if they don't feel comfortable with that type of religion, then let them choose don't force someone.
Posted by FollowerofChrist1955 10 months ago
FollowerofChrist1955
Matthew 13
10 The disciples came to him and asked, "Why do you speak to the people in parables?"

11 He replied, "Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. 12 Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. 13 This is why I speak to them in parables:

"Though seeing, they do not see;
though hearing, they do not hear or understand.
14 In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah:

""You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
15 For this people"s heart has become calloused;
they hardly hear with their ears,
and they have closed their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them."[a]

Sad really, but THIS IS the lives of the ATHEIST.
Posted by FollowerofChrist1955 10 months ago
FollowerofChrist1955
God"s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God"s invisible qualities"his eternal power and divine nature"have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

So you see, children, You have offended God, giving credit of His creation to a known LIE, called Evolution.
Yes children ... it IS a LIE. One you COULD HAVE EASILY KNOWN by just looking at the experiments and noticing that NO LIVING BREATHING ANIMAL was created during those experiments, not A ONE.

Scientist relied on you NOT checking. They relied on your not wanting to be seen as stupid, when they used BIG words to regale you. So you never bothered to ask them to SHOW you THE CREATED CREATURE. Failing to check for this you BECAME FOOLS.

You can correct it now. Put the NAME of the created living breathing, reproducing animal HERE:___________

Hint: doesn't exist! All of creation has a male and female parent ..... despite the atheists insistence on shouting but 1% doesn't..... yet even the asexual reproductive creature DOES REQUIRE the egg .... not the microbe, children .... the EGG. Simple biology.

For all the claims of intellect, man allowed himself to be DUPED, by scholars, with experience in mere guessing. Educated or not, a guess, children is STILL a GUESS!
Posted by FollowerofChrist1955 10 months ago
FollowerofChrist1955
One must wonder if YOU are as the accursed souls called atheist, who ARE DOOMED to inhabit the Religion section of these boards, because they have offended God, and as such have NO ability to LEAVE the religious section.
Essentially they are doomed to HEAR the subject, and word of God, for the duration of their earthly existence, but as pointed out in Isaiah and Matthew, they are forbidden to ever UNDERSTAND even the simplest of scriptures.
Thus they linger in a sort of earthly Hell, being forced to hear the word of the one in whom they feel hate hate, and discomfort. So go through the religion section and witness for yourself the anger, anguish, misery that IS the atheist, who because they have no choice MUST REMAIN ON the religious section.

Sure they SAY it's for other reasons .... but is it? I mean YOUR not on a mechanics Section are you? Of course not, "Why" cause your not interested IN MECHANICS. So why would an ATHEIST a person completely in denial of Gods existence...... why in the world would they cling to a religious section like some sort of a caged animal, growling at every subject of God, yet .... REFUSING to get OFF the section? Maybe perhaps ..... just perhaps ..... they CAN'T?
Posted by FollowerofChrist1955 10 months ago
FollowerofChrist1955
The answer is a resounding yes. The "Why" is self-evident, to even the simplest of minds. And the reason why Adults are the ONLY ones that SHOULD be allowed to debate on these boards. As is obvious, there should be an age limit for debating on these boards as Children, far too often demonstrate a complete lack of knowledge, experience, and wherewithal to provide coherent debates.

This debate is an excellent example. Let us explore this debate for its usefulness or lack of usefulness in this case.
1. No atheist parent TEACHES their child religion ..... ever.
2. Religious parents ALWAYS teach their children religion .
3.Only the most UNDISCIPLINED children whine about going to church, and teenagers, in any religious home.

Like ProjectX_54 for example?

When this debate is viewed from an Adult prospective, it is known to be a complete and total waste of ones time, in that it is based on foolish, and childish thinking, that demonstrates a complete lack of maturity.
Basically it is a debate of children, pretending to be adults, but having no experience with which to formulate rational thoughts.

Lastly, that the Existence of God IS a reality, and that a consequence IS known to be awaiting those who through laziness, lack of intelligence or simple stubbornness refuse to seek Him, naturally begs the question, why would you NOT wish for YOUR child to go to Heaven? Only the poorest and most horrible of parents would desire to send their OWN children to Hell?

If that IS YOU? You are undeserving of parenthood, and any child of yours is to be pitied.
Posted by ProjectX_54 10 months ago
ProjectX_54
No its not okay to force religion on kids. Let them find out who they are and what religion they want. Don't just force it upon people.Its like raping other peoples beliefs and you do that parents are bound to retaliate its violating First amendment right. Honestly nothing should be forced upon anyone we are all human how can we learn without making a few bad decision if we get forced to do the opposite. After that happens what happens next should the u.s. start forcing marriages or force you to work a low paying job you would not agree with it and not follow what they say like a loyal dog.
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