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should marijuana be legalized for recreational use

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Started: 12/4/2014 Category: Society
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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aiwaslex

Pro

I'm for marijuana to be legalized for recreational use, because marijuana can be as dangerous as "food" that we put into our body's. Most people are scared of marijuana and parents, grandparents and other adults tell us that marijuana can kill us.

First if alcohol and cigarettes are legal then why marijuana can't be legal too. Alcohol affects on people are scary and unhealthy. People with alcohol addiction are unstoppable they can't control their actions and because of this many life's were lost even of innocent people. To ppurchase marijuana legally you need to visit places like Washington or Colorado to buy a joint, which is far safer then a bottle of vodka.

I have seen the affect on people when they are drunk and when they are high, so I rather see high person walking on the street chasing birds, then shouting young man with a vodka or bear bottle in their hands.

Second marijuana can be used in medical world, as it shows good potential. Once I had broken my chest and experience is not the best. Pain killers never helped, but as I know marijuana can be used to stop that pain for good. Marijuana can even help in other situations like: mitigates multiple sclerosis and Tourette Syndrome symptoms, and may reduce dystonia.

So if marijuana is so bad and its a devils gift to world why some countries, states allow it, maybe its not that bad after and some people should stop worrying about marijuana and start looking how it could help us.
thaiheisaguythatlikespies

Con

many believe that marijuana is an ok or great drug but marijuana has a dark side to tell that not all people know. The affects can be very damaging both physical and mental. some people also think that it is a natural and good solution compared to the drugs that the pharmaceutical companies make or hospitals or other forms of retailing medical drugs but that is not the truth base on current evidence, marijuana is an dangerous drug drug and that there are less dangerous medicines offering the same pain relief and other medical symptoms without the nasty side effects that occur when consuming marijuana.

This depends on how much you consume but getting high tensed to last longer then being intoxicated and we as humans does not jest drink alcohol from fermented fruits other animals do it as well like monkeys, elephants purposely consume fermented fruits to get intoxicated so it is perfectly normal to consume alcohol unlike marijuana! According to scientific studies the active ingredient in cannabis is "THC" which remains in the body for weeks. This ingredient is also used in most rat poisons.
The immediate effects of taking marijuana are rapid heartbeat, disorientation, possible violent vomiting, and lack of physical coordination. Afterwards other symptoms which follow are depression, sleepiness, and some users suffer from panic attacks and anxiety which can lead to bodily harm. These are some of the reasons why marijuana should not be legalized.
Debate Round No. 1
aiwaslex

Pro

The war on drugs is a big failure. Marijuana has been in use for hundreds of years and has not been contributed to a single death. Marijuana is not a gateway drug, it's not physically addicting, it doesn't kill brain cells... The propaganda surrounding marijuana is deceitful and just plain stupid.

This plant will only benefit us instead of being detrimental as many may think. Stereotypes placed on marijuana ussers are stupid and lame. Almost every celebrity smokes weed or hides joints in their coats and they've all become millionaires.

Another reason marijuana should be legal is for hemp. Hemp is marijuana not used for smoking but to create products. It can make paper, clothing, fiberboard twice as strong as wood and much much more. It is illegal to grow because it is conjuncted in with marijuana.
thaiheisaguythatlikespies

Con

May might say that the war on drugs is a big failure but it is not for example : #1 Meth Raid in Mexico Yields $205 Million Cash Seizure

In March 2007,. US and Mexican authorities seized over $200 million in US dollars from several methamphetamine in one of Mexico City"s most expensive areas.

US officials said that the massive size of this seizure showed the huge scope of the illegal narcotics trade that links Mexico, Asia and the US. Two of the people who were arrested in this cash seizure actually were from China. The raid happened after a long investigation that started in December 2006, when the police seized 20 tons of pseudoephedrine, which is a cold medicine used to make meth.
http://cashseizurelaw.com... on /2014/december/9/
Marijuana yes has been used for many years it has only been used for paper, clothing, recreational. In the past we used to drink urine to see if they are sick or people throw out there fecal matter out the window. So, things we did in the past has not always been for the best. No, we can not say that not one death has been caused my marijuana, after all marijuana can cause cancer. Also, some other symptoms causes bodily harm. Further to this point marijuana is a light drug but it acts as a gateway for harder drugs such as heroine and crack cocaine. These drugs can ruin you life. Actually, marijuana does destroy brain cells and even harm them. Marijuana affects memory, judgment and perception. The drug can make you mess up in school, in sports or clubs, or with your friends. If you"re high on marijuana, you are more likely to make mistakes that could embarrass or even hurt you. If you use marijuana a lot, you could start to lose interest in how you look and how you"re getting along at school or work.

Athletes could find their performance is off; timing, movements, and coordination are all affected by THC. This is why it is a banned substance in the Olympics. Also, since marijuana can affect judgment and decision-making, its use can lead to risky sexual behavior, resulting in exposure to sexually transmitted diseases like HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.
https://uodos.uoregon.edu... on /2014/december/9/

it is not propaganda if it is true, many people mistake propaganda from the truth. The use of marijuana can have a bad impact on people and their lives so ti is are duty to inform the good people of this world about the real dangers of marijuana consumption which can lead to more serious drugs. no not every one will benefit most likely they will come to the same conclusion i have that marijuana is not the best product to use at all. marijuana does not have Stereotypes the people who consume do and the stereotypes are there to inform the people of the danger. it is not because of the drug that the celebrities are success. Rather it is because of their individual talents. Also not all celebrities take drugs or drink. Further to this point some celebrities such as Robert Downey Jr. (Iron Man) became more successful after they quit taking drugs.
Regarding you excellent point about hemp. This is true. Hemp is a plant but it is not marijuana. It does not contain the THC that is in marijuana. So hemp in Canada is legal and is used as a material to make clothing, paper and other items. However, as in Canada there is no need to legalize it as it is not marijuana. Your argument is flawed the drug in marijuana (THC) should not be legalized and so you are agreeing with me. Again as I have stated before the drug is bad and leads to bad behaviour and problems for people. Thus, the drug marijuana should not be legalized.
Debate Round No. 2
aiwaslex

Pro

The third major reason that marijuana should be legal is because prohibition does not help the country in any way, and causes a lot of problems. There is no good evidence that prohibition decreases drug use, and there are several theories that suggest prohibition might actually increase drug use.

One unintended effect of marijuana prohibition is that marijuana is very popular in American high schools, because it is available. You don't have to be 21 to buy marijuana, marijuana dealers usually don't care how old you are as long as you have money. It is actually easier for many high school students to obtain marijuana than it is for them to obtain alcohol, because alcohol is legal and therefore regulated to keep it away from kids.

The government has tried to use criminal penalties to prevent marijuana use for over 75 years and yet: marijuana is now used by over 25 million people and marijuana is grown all over the planet. Idea that marijuana will soon be eliminated from America and the rest of the world is a ridiculous fantasy and this sounds stupid.
thaiheisaguythatlikespies

Con

Yes, you are correct but WRONG prohibition of alcohol did not work but that was a legal substance that was made illegal and alcohol was socially accepted before the prohibition but marijuana was always illegal an not socially accepted in many parts of the world . So you cannot compare the two prohibitions because you will have different outcomes your, bases is flawed.
your argument is wrong. YES your right but WRONG because alcohol is regulated. Therefore drug dealers cannot make illegal underground profits. So they make more money selling marijuana and not giving any money to the government. More money then selling to underage kids a product that their older siblings can get without extra cost. It is not that marijuana is easy to get but it just that you can get more money selling marijuana then alcohol. However criminals like drug dealers sell underage girls (human trafficking) does this mean you are advocating the legalization of selling girls or heroin? Also just because something cannot be eliminated for example people committing crimes it does not mean we should not continue to keep this harmful product from being easily obtainable for the greater good of society.
Debate Round No. 3
aiwaslex

Pro

aiwaslex forfeited this round.
thaiheisaguythatlikespies

Con

thaiheisaguythatlikespies forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
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Reasons for voting decision: Conduct - Tie. Both debaters forfeited the final rounds which is never acceptable in any debate setting. S&G - Pro. Con had several issues regarding proper capitalization throughout the debate, Pro had no such issues. Arguments - Con. Both sides presented compelling cases and both rebutted each other effectively. The burden fell on Pro though since he was advocating for a change in the status quo. By forfeiting the final round instead of providing rebuttals against Con, Pro left Con's arguments standing unchallenged. For this, Con wins arguments. Sources - Con. Pro didn't utilize sources in this debate whereas Con did.