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should students have a off-campus lunch

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Started: 2/24/2015 Category: Education
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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jerrywu1206

Con

Well met, my opponent, this is my first time argue, so i just choose a simple topic.
Rose212

Pro

Responsibility and trust is a key trait to success. Allowing students to go off-campus will show responsibility, trust, and time management. If students had off-campus lunches, they would have a variety of choices. Many students skip lunches, because of poor cuisine and would rather had a sense of freedom of what they put into their bodies. By purchasing your own meal for lunch, administrators and the school will save money and spend it on supplies and other more efficient and beneficial needs for the school. Students will receive more of an option on what to eat from.
Debate Round No. 1
jerrywu1206

Con

First of all my opponent for accepting this ebullient argument.

Many students, especially high school students are going to jump when they hear the word off-campus since some of them were lacking responsibility to control themselves.

Also, my opponent, i'll give this extra round to add your reasons why students should have a off-campus lunch before i start my real attack.
Rose212

Pro

Thank you, my opponent. Let me begin, school lunches are overpriced. Having students go off-campus for lunch would be an excellent way for kids to spend his/her money in a healthy way. It would prepare students and teenagers to prepare for adulthood. Allowing students to have more freedom that they deserve, it doesn't keep them cooped up and more likely of a chance to skip class, or rebel against the school.
Debate Round No. 2
jerrywu1206

Con

Lets start, shall we?

- In most cases they say responsibility and trust is a good thing and is a key trait to success. If students dislike school lunches, they can always choose go bring lunch from home. Students who are granted the freedom to eat off campus may act irresponsibly and get themselves into trouble. Being on campus is safer.

Also, Students having off- campus lunches will not turn out so well. Some students see this as an opportunity to leave school and there could be trouble. Students eating at restaurants can be costly and unhealthy as well. When they leave campus, they are out of adult supervision and cannot be helped if in trouble.

-Second of all, students do not have abundant of tie, for example, for elementary schools they only have half hour and 15 minutes, and many restaurants are very far away from the school and it just takes half of an hour for a student to travel between school and the restaurant.

- Third of all, how on earth are you going to check how students are going to be disrespectful or not. The yard duties or other teachers can't keep an eye on everyone and everything. In which that that accidents may happen to the students while they're gone during this duration.

-Specifically, Allowing students to eat off-campus leads to them eating fast food because that would be the food of choice. Students would be driving to restaurants and that could lead to more trouble. Keep students at school the whole day. If the lunch choices aren't good, students can pack their own lunches.

-Besides, if students are acting dismal or disrespectfully outside of school, it is also bad for the school's image, that the school or even that district would be punished for this act.

-For the most important thing, what if students are having alcohol or they are smoking outside of school during their off-campus lunch period? Since from the 1800s there are many followers of temperance.

-If any student got injured the student(s)' might have a chance to blame the school that way the school have to pay for the price for that student to be "saved"
Rose212

Pro

Students can bring school lunches from home, but they would possibly want to eat at an off-campus location. Students who are granted the freedom to eat off campus may act irresponsibly and get themselves into trouble, but if so they could be restricted from access to off-campus lunches." Being on campus is safer", according to www.stoptheshootings.org, 387 school shootings have happened in the U.S. since 1992. There is an equal possibility of shootings and violence from schools to restaurants.

"Students eating at restaurants can be costly and unhealthy as well." In ways, that is incorrect.
At McDonald's, a cheeseburger is only 290 calories and 11 grams of fat; for an entire meal, it's not that bad. Subway's Nutrition Menu states that a 6 inch sub can range from 230-370 calories and 1-5 grams of fat.
The estimated calorie needs range from 1,800 to 3,000 per day, divide that by 3; it would be about 600-1000 calories per meal, give or take a few. The IOM ( Institute of Medicine) says that the average human consumes about 20 and 35 grams of total fat per day, which is about 7 to 12 grams per meal, with fast-food for lunch at school, staying healthy would still be a choice!

Lunches should not exceed:
650 calories for students in grades K-five
700 calories for children in grades six-eight
850 calories for those in grades nine-twelve

There are several meals that do not exceed over 850 calories in several restaurants.

For example, ABC news offered a quote in an sententious article..
"850 calories is plenty for lunch and ought to tide a teenager over until after school," said Marion Nestle, a professor of nutrition at New York University.

What can you get for 850 calories or less? You can squeeze in a Big Mac, and more at the 850 calorie max. Let's take a look , shall we?

McDonald"s
Big Mac (550)
Small fries (230)
Diet Coke (0)
2 ketchup packets (30)
Small iced nonfat latte with sugar free vanilla syrup (40)
TOTAL: 850 calories

KFC
Original Recipe chicken breast (360)
Cole slaw (180)
Mashed potatoes with gravy (120)
Green beans (25)
Diet Pepsi (0)
Oatmeal raisin cookie (150)
TOTAL: 835 calories

Subway
Six-inch Cold Cut Combo sandwich " includes 9-grain wheat bread, lettuce, tomatoes, onions, green peppers, and cucumbers (370)
American cheese (40)
Mayonnaise (110)
Baked Lay"s chips (130)
Oatmeal raisin cookie (200)
Diet drink (0)
TOTAL: 850 calories

See what I mean? You can get the same amount of food at fast food restaurants, for less.

"...for elementary schools they only have half hour and 15 minutes, and many restaurants are very far away from the school and it just takes half of an hour for a student to travel between school and the restaurant."
I wasn't talking about elementary schools, I was talking about Highschools. Highschoolers have legs, do they not? They also have the privilege of a car. Many elementary schools have less than a half an hour, and very few restaurants are from a 15 mile radius. How would YOU know if it takes 30 minutes for highschoolers to travel back and forth from restaurants to school? What if the restaurant was just down the street? You have no factual evidence to support your claim.

"The yard duties or other teachers can't keep an eye on everyone and everything. In which that that accidents may happen to the students while they're gone during this duration."
Teachers would have to depend on the students to be safe and respectful. Manners are a good way for students to become responsible, if not they took the risk and they deal with the consequences for themselves.

"that the school or even that district would be punished for this act."
What? Uh...? It's the students responsibility for his/her actions, their risk, their choice.

"For the most important thing, what if students are having alcohol or they are smoking outside of school during their off-campus lunch period? Since from the 1800s there are many followers of temperance."
It is illegal for students to be drinking underage, therefore (for the third time) students will deal with their conquences if they choose to go down that choice of life. And once again, where is your factual evidence? I don't see any citations, organizations, anything. For all I know, you're making up information.
Debate Round No. 3
jerrywu1206

Con

sorry for not using any citations.

According to http://www.healthguidance.org...
and also to my 8th grade textbook on page 376.

You had said that school lunch are over priced, but according to my first website, it states that eating out is always going to be considerably more expensive than eating in.

Lets just use the example of McDonald, one Big Mac cost $3.59, and compare to a elementary school lunch, $2<$3.59
obviously that the school lunch is more cheaper.
Rose212

Pro

The average school lunch costs $2.08, according to the School Nutrition Association. But, http://www.massresources.org... states that meals are based off of salary income. Personally, my school lunch is over three dollars.

You say that eating out is more expensive than eating in.
http://www.fastfoodmenuprices.com..., gives me several menu prices that are under school lunches. Here are a few options:

McDonald's:
Double Cheeseburger: $1.59
Triple Cheeseburger: $2.00
Grilled Chipolte BBQ Chicken Snack Wrap: $1.69
Grilled Honey Mustard Chicken Snack Wrap: $1.69
Grilled Ranch Chicken Snack Wrap: $1.69
Crispy Chipolte BBQ Chicken Snack Wrap: $1.69
Crispy Honey Mustard Chicken Snack Wrap: $1.69
Crispy Ranch: Chicken Snack Wrap: $1.69
Small French Fries: $1.29
Medium French Fries: $1.59
Large French Fries: $1.79
Grilled Onion Cheddar: $1.00
McDouble: $1.39
McChicken: $1.00
Bacon Cheddar McChicken: $2.00
Buffalo Ranch McChicken: $1.00
Bacon Buffalo Ranch McChicken: $2.00
BBQ Ranch Burger: $1.00
Cheeseburger: $1.00
Double Cheeseburger: $1.59
Daily Double: $1.99
Jalape"o Double: $2.00
Bacon McDouble: $2.00
4 Pc. Chicken McNuggets: $1.99
Parfait: $1.00
Sweet Tea: $1.00
Side Salad: $1.00
3 Cookies: $1.00
Cone: $1.00
2 Bags of Apple Slices: $1.00
Sausage Burrito: $1.00
Sausage McMuffin: $1.00
Sausage Biscuit: $1.00
1 Hash Brown: $1.00
Coffee: $1.00
2 McGriddles Cakes: $1.00
Egg & Cheese Biscuit: $1.29
Cinnamon Melt: $1.59

That's just McDonald's. I could rave on and on about the extraordinary price difference.
Debate Round No. 4
jerrywu1206

Con

jerrywu1206 forfeited this round.
Rose212

Pro

Rose212 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by jerrywu1206 1 year ago
jerrywu1206
lol, you just gave me alot of food calorie list.
Posted by jerrywu1206 1 year ago
jerrywu1206
thanks to argue with me Rose
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