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should the constitution be ratified

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Started: 4/14/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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kelskels1010

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Yes the constitution should have been ratified the constitution was not ratified,our union would be totaled,it would fall apart. The reason why we have the constitution is because before we gave too much power to the states and not enough to the government. The government was weak and with a weak government comes a weak union. without the ratification of the constitution the government would have no power to raise taxes (which is for our benefit) , no power to build an army, no power to enforce treaties... no power to do anything that a government is supposed to easily have power to do.
Spekx

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"The reason why we have the constitution is because before we gave too much power to the states and not enough to the government."

Actually that is EXACTLY backwards, The Federal governments ONLY job is the protection of its citizens. All the power was SUPPOSED to be with the states. The founding fathers were very much concerned that a overgrown federal government would eventually steal the peoples freedoms

Article 1, section 8, clause 17 in the US Constitution (known as the enclave clause) is a perfect example of this. It was specifically put into place to LIMIT the federal governments ability to control the land that was supposed to be controlled by the individual states. It stipulated that the federal government was PROHIBITED from owning/controlling an area of more then 10 square miles, and further stipulated what the Federal Government was able to do on those lands (the erection of needful buildings i.e. military bases).

The constitution is FILLED with laws who's only specific reason for being in the constitution is to LIMIT the federal governments power. Our founding fathers had good reason to fear an overgrown and oppressive federal government.

I made a mistake by choosing to debate the original question "Should the constitution be ratified" my answer is YES, but for very different reasons then the poster of this debate. That being said I respectfully bow out of this debate.
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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Spekx 3 years ago
Spekx
"The reason why we have the constitution is because before we gave too much power to the states and not enough to the government."

Actually that is EXACTLY backwards, The Federal governments ONLY job is the protection of its citizens. All the power was SUPPOSED to be with the states. The founding fathers were very much concerned that a overgrown federal government would eventually steal the peoples freedoms

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 in the US Constitution (Known as the enclave clause) is a perfect example of this. It was specifically put into place to LIMIT the federal governments ability to control the land that was supposed to be controlled by the individual states. It stipulated that the federal government was PROHIBITED from owning/controlling an area of more then 10 square miles, and further stipulated what the Federal Government was able to do on those lands (the erection of needful buildings that PROTECTED the citizens).

The constitution is FILLED with laws who's only specific reason for being in the constitution is to LIMIT the federal governments power. Our founding fathers had good reason to fear an overgrown and oppressive federal government.
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