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bryce_mcfarland
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cmshelton98
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should the word "god" be in the pledge of allegiants

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cmshelton98
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/9/2015 Category: Religion
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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bryce_mcfarland

Con

I do not think the word "god" should be in the pledge of allegiants because not every one believes in "god"
cmshelton98

Pro

The country of the United States was based on the foundation of religion freedom and freedom of everything else. If you do not believe the allegiance* has the right to say what it does based on the religious side of it, I believe we should leave it in as a dedication to the Founding Fathers and their beliefs.
Debate Round No. 1
bryce_mcfarland

Con

not every one belives in god
cmshelton98

Pro

Round two begins the same as the first round? I know that not everyone believes in a god or entity, and that's their choice. Like Idiosyncratic (nice name, by the way) said in the comments, we can't appease everyone. That's not our job. It's like our creed, a motto of the U.S. The pledge represents us. Everything else in the world is changing, can't we have one constant thing?
Debate Round No. 2
bryce_mcfarland

Con

I think U.S. should take "god" out of the pelage of legends
cmshelton98

Pro

Sir, you've said the same thing over and over, but I'm not seeing your reasoning. Yes, there are different beliefs among the citizens of America and the citizens of all the nations, but your argument is just not valid w/o a solid defense, which you lack. Is saying one word worth changing the standard for an entire nation, all because some people aren't happy with the freedom of speech granted to them by the first amendment? Not everyone in the world agrees with the freedom of speech that we as Americans have got. Should we take that away too? I'm sure you'd disagree with that.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by TBR 2 years ago
TBR
@cmshelton98, how does invoking God in the pledge honor the founding fathers? Thats the question.
Posted by jsgolfer 2 years ago
jsgolfer
It's tradition. It is irrelevant if you believe in a God or not. If you are actually offended using the word "God" in the pledge of allegiance you need to re-evaluate your country of residence.
Posted by frodopeswaggins 2 years ago
frodopeswaggins
Well someone can just abstain from saying it according to West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette so I mean con is completely invalid. They also stated no points. I wish I could vote.
Posted by cmshelton98 2 years ago
cmshelton98
@TBR While the Founding Father's aren't alive, the Pledge keeps their beliefs going. Real patriots say and mean the Pledge, and they wouldn't be able to without the Founding Father's. I say the Pledge more as a dedication then I do giving my allegiance.
Posted by bryce_mcfarland 2 years ago
bryce_mcfarland
it dues not matter if it is at the founding fathers of America
Posted by TBR 2 years ago
TBR
How is it a tribute to the founding fathers?
Posted by RavenDebater 2 years ago
RavenDebater
My school district allows those who are offended by the term "God" to abstain from saying the Pledge of Alliance. It is simply a formality like how on coins the term "In God we trust" is engraved. It is simply a formality from an earlier time, and as pro has said a tribute to the founding fathers. A single word is nothing to get mad about, I am an atheist and I have no problem with it. And due to the lack of attention it gets i would say I'm not alone
Posted by Kameron_Grayson 2 years ago
Kameron_Grayson
No need for short debates like these, downvote and report
Posted by Idiosyncratic 2 years ago
Idiosyncratic
It was signed into law in 1956. I guess it was added in 1954
Posted by Idiosyncratic 2 years ago
Idiosyncratic
no, nevermind, it was 1954
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Vote Placed by Paleophyte 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Con fails to support the resolution in any way. The argument that "In God We Trust" is a relatively new addition, tacked on to the Pledge of Allegiance because McCarthy and friends thought that the original sentiments of the Founding Fathers sounded too damned commie, was never made.
Vote Placed by TBR 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Too bad Con couldn't be bothered to put any effort into his own debate.
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Reasons for voting decision: Con posted bare assertion after bare assertion, whilst Pro made some kind of argument. Therefore, I award Pro argument points.
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Reasons for voting decision: I did not even know god was in the "pelage of legends," I guess con is a believer, to think god is there at all; but what is so legendary about the pelage in particular, and how does it relate to this debate?
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Reasons for voting decision: Con made no effort what so ever. While pro actually made an argument along with history. S&G tied. Good job pro.