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Chelsea_C04
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PengWing
Pro (for)

should unclaimed animals in the pound be used for research?

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Started: 1/7/2017 Category: Miscellaneous
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Chelsea_C04

Con

Unclaimed animals in the pound shouldn't be used for any type of research. they have feelings too, but they can't express them as us humans do. they can be used for many other reasons. (police dogs, arson dogs, etc).
PengWing

Pro

Indeed, animals do have feelings. They have emotions and they feel pain and it is very cruel to use them for research.
However, my argument is that even though it is cruel, this is not an issue of our feelings or theirs, it is an issue of necessity and survival.

Simply put, rather than testing and researching humans and putting people at risk and discomfort, it is better to do that to animals. Meaning, If you take the death of a thousand rat in comparison to the suffering of one human then the scale of what matters more for us as a species is quite obvious and clear which is our own survival.

And in reality, hundreds of rats die in order for us to create vaccines, but then we save millions of humans.
For once, we give animals an honorable death, rather than to leave poison around the house because we heard the squeak of a mouse
Debate Round No. 1
Chelsea_C04

Con

Some animals carry diseases. Rats being one of them. What if we do research and create vaccines from them and then we end up getting sick because of something in the animal? Now my argument says "unclaimed animals" not humans. why would we test and research on humans? Animals and humans obviously don't have the same skin type. What if whatever product they are trying to test or vaccine they're trying to make doesn't effect the animals skin but when we go to test it out it affects us.
PengWing

Pro

Rebuttal:
"Some animals carry diseases. Rats being one of them"
If while testing animals we find that they carry diseases, then we should kill them right away, or else history could repeat itself, for example:
"The Black Death is widely thought to have been an outbreak of bubonic plague caused by bacteria carried by fleas that lived on black rats. The rodents spread the plague from China to Europe and it hit Britain in 1348"
We are talking about and, which is reckoned to have claimed 75million lives worldwide. This is what we stand to lose.

"Now my argument says "unclaimed animals" not humans. why would we test and research on humans?"
The reason we use rats and mice, is because they allow us to test things in their DNA [not skin] that are similar to ours, as well as their cognitive brain, which in some ways is also similar to ours. For example rats exhibits Alzheimer's and by trying to heal them, we can figure out how to heal our own elderly, or us when we get older.
However, to follow your argument, if we didn't have animals to test these things on. HOW and who are we going to test them on? planets? no, they don't have similar DNA and cognitive brain. So, in order to help and save millions, who else will we have to test on? HUMANS! and if you think about it logically, the suffering or death of one human in comparison to saving millions of lives, or making billions more comfortable. It is worth it overall for us as a species.
But, firstly human testing is illegal, secondly the suffering and death of thousand rats is not worth the suffering of one human.

Another argument:
Not only does testing on animals help save human lives, advance us and provide us longer years to live. But, if you take your pet to the vet. The vet can come up with medicine for your pet, really quickly because someone has already tested out what needs to be done in what situation. So animal use is also good their own species.

Sources:
http://www.dispatch.com...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk...
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com...
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