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slaves condtion

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/22/2014 Category: Religion
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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ziola1020

Con

To a degree, the material conditions of slave life were predetermined by the status of the slave. During the early colonial period, slaves and indentured servants enjoyed greater freedoms than black slaves would in later periods. But even then, they belonged to the lowest, poorest ranks of society. In the late seventeenth and early eighteenth centuries, slaves were condemned to impoverishment by the law. In many colonies, slaves could not participate in wage-earning trade or labor. In others they were denied the right to own property. The slave's resulting dependence on his or her master for the most basic necessities -- food, clothing, shelter -- was integral to the preservation of the master's power and the sustaining of the slave society.



The doctrine of paternalism guided much of the Southern rationale for slavery. As a public expression of humanitarian ideals drawn from both the American Revolution and the Great Awakening, which spread Christianity far and wide, Southern plantation owners defined slavery not as an institution of brute force, but of responsible dominion over a less fortunate, less evolved people.negro with perfect confidence in you and learn him to look to you for support and he is your slave," were the words of one plantation owner. Of course, the documented brutality of slave owners, beyond the mere fact of enslavement, demonstrated that planters were short on adherence to their own doctrine. The diary of Bennet H. Barrow, a Louisiana slave owner, documents almost daily beatings and torturing of slaves, accompanied enigmatically by extensive moral explanations as to why such punishments were necessary. Paternalism was thus more a justification, than an orientation, for slavery.

Although material comfort or discomfort was contingent on the individual owner's finances, management style, and disposition, in general, enslaved people were clothed, fed and housed only minimally to ensure their survival and capacity for labor. Geographic location, whether urban or rural, greatly impacted the lives of the enslaved. Slaves who lived in urban areas, estimated in the early nineteenth century at less than six percent of the entire enslaved population, generally existed under more favorable conditions than their rural counterparts.

"A city slave is almost a freeman, compared with a slave on the plantation," wrote the abolitionist Frederick Douglass, who escaped slavery in 1838 at the age of 20. "He is much better fed and clothed, and enjoys privileges altogether unknown to the slave on the plantation." This is not to say that city-dwelling slave owners were by nature more compassionate than plantation owners. Scholars argue that, among other factors, urban dwellers' close proximity to each other served to deter individuals from brutally mistreating human property and appearing inhumane themselves.

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jh1234l

Pro

Con has not sufficiently met his burden of proof.

Con has the bop to prove that the condition of slaves vary greatly, or in other words, to a large extent.

First of all, all arguments from con are plagiarized from http://www.pbs.org... . That means that all of his arguments were invalid.

Con cites https://medium.com... as his source. However, it was a review and download link for the movie "12 Years A Slave", and was irrelevant to con's arguments on the living conditions of slaves.

As Con has all his arguments copy-pasted, he loses conducts. Also, con used a irrelevant link to attempt to gain the source mark, which means that he also loses sources.

Now, ignoring the fact that the arguments were copy-pasted, how good are the arguments?

Con brings us nothing but baseless assertions, by saying "It is like this" without a relevant sources. Therefore, con does not meet his burden of proof.
Debate Round No. 1
ziola1020

Con

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jh1234l

Pro

Extend all arguments.
Debate Round No. 2
ziola1020

Con

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jh1234l

Pro

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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Adam2 3 years ago
Adam2
@Ziola1020
First of all, there really wasn't need for impoverishment of slaves. Slaves were property of someone else, forced to do labor for other people. It was like that with all slaves -- from the Germanics holding of slaves, to Arab slavery, etc, etc.
Impoverishment came against freed blacks.
Slaves were needed for work. They were treated badly but of different circumstances.
Impoverishment had nothing to do with slavery.
Posted by richardk84 3 years ago
richardk84
@ESocialBookworm: The spelling police.
Posted by ESocialBookworm 3 years ago
ESocialBookworm
You spelt 'condition' wrong buddy.
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Vote Placed by Krazzy_Player 3 years ago
Krazzy_Player
ziola1020jh1234lTied
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Reasons for voting decision: More rounds forfeited by Con so he looses conduct points. Arguments goes to Pro as Con "plagiarized" his "arguments" from the "Source" as shown by Pro.
Vote Placed by codemeister13 3 years ago
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ziola1020jh1234lTied
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Reasons for voting decision: Conduct and arguments go to Pro for Con's plagiarism (as Pro kindly pointed out) and forfeiture of subsequent rounds. Sources go to Pro for pointing out flaws in Con's sources (i.e plagiarism and a deactivated link).