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BrycePackwood
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Revolutionist65
Con (against)

space is an intangetable reality

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Started: 3/24/2017 Category: Science
Updated: 10 months ago Status: Debating Period
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BrycePackwood

Pro

One of the first people to embrace Einstein's ideas was his former teacher, Hermann Minkowski (1864-1909). He realized that although different observers experience the same events, they will describe them differently because they disagree about the nature of space and the nature of time. On the other hand space and time taken together form a more robust entity:

'Henceforth space by itself, and time by itself, are doomed to fade away into mere shadows, and only a kind of union of the two will preserve an independent reality.'
Hermann Minkowski, Space and Time in A. Einstein et al. (1952), The Principle of Relativity, New York, Dover Publications.

The union of space and time of which Minkowski spoke is now generally referred to as space-time. It represents a kind of melding together of space and time, and since space is three-dimensional, and time is one-dimensional, space-time is four-dimensional. Any particular observer, such as you or I, will divide space-time into space and time, but the way in which that division is made may differ from one observer to another and will crucially depend on the relative motion of the observers.

A very rough attempt at representing diagrammatically this change of attitude towards space and time is shown in

The pre-Einsteinian view of space and time(a) The pre-Einsteinian view of space and time. Not only are space and time separate and distinct they are also absolute. All observers agree on what constitutes space and what constitutes time, and they also agree about what it means to speak of 'the whole of space at a particular time'.

The post-Einsteinian view in which space and time are seen as aspects of a unified space-time(b) The post-Einsteinian view in which space and time are seen as aspects of a unified space-time. Different observers in uniform, relative motion will each slice space-time into space and time, but they will do so in different ways. Each observer knows what it means to speak of 'the whole of space at a particular time', but different observers no longer necessarily agree about what constitutes space and what constitutes time.

Before Einstein introduced special relativity, the phrase 'the whole of space at a particular time' was thought to have exactly the same meaning for all observers. After Einstein's work it was felt that each observer would understand what the phrase meant, but that different observers would disagree about what constituted the whole of space at a particular time. All observers would agree on what constituted space-time, but the way in which it was sliced up into space and time would differ from one observer to another, depending on their relative motion. No observer had the true view; they were all equally valid even though they might be different.

In retrospect, special relativity can be seen as part of a gradual process in which the laws of physics attained universal significance. The earliest attempts to understand the physical world placed Man and the Earth firmly at the centre of creation. Certain laws applied on Earth, but different laws applied in the heavens. Copernicus overturned this Earth-centred view and Newton proposed laws that claimed to apply at all places, and at all times. Special relativity continues this process by insisting that physical laws should not depend on the observer's state of motion - at least so long as that motion is uniform. It is therefore not surprising that Einstein was led to ask if physical laws could be expressed in the same way for all observers, even those who were moving non-uniformly. This was the aim of his general theory of relativity.
Revolutionist65

Con

Knowledge of genetic predisposition to future illness and disability creates
uncertainties that shape and influence life decisions about reproduction, career, health
behavior, and the need for care. Current research has not yet identified the meaning of the
experience of feeling uncertain among intimate partners of persons who have received
genetic information pertaining to future health status. The purpose of this
phenomenological study was to understand the meaning of uncertainty as a lived
experienced among intimate partners of persons who have tested positive for a mutation
in the gene causing Huntington disease (HD) but have not yet been clinically diagnosed
with HD. The specific aims were to create a rich, vivid description of uncertainty as
experienced by this population and to present these findings within an existential
phenomenological perspective. Using van Manen"s hermeneutic-phenomenological
methodology, experiential descriptions from 10 intimate partners of persons in the
prodromal phase of HD were obtained. Thematic aspects of the lived experience of
uncertainty were uncovered and isolated; essential themes were determined; and
linguistic transformations were composed. The analysis revealed four essential themes,
indicating that the meaning of the lived experience of uncertainty was 1) an intangible
reality characterized by 2) anticipating with ebbing and flowing disquietude while feeling 3) a weighty pull to dwell upon, towards inner turmoil and 4) a subdued presence with
freeing possibilities. The implications of these findings are that nurses need to ensure
adequate opportunity is created in which the meaning of the lived experience of
uncertainty can be ascertained and explored among persons who are on the cusp of the
inevitable but not yet graspable. Continued research is needed to further address the
implications of being situated in this potentially fracturing phase of the disease trajectory
and to determine appropriate interventions.
Debate Round No. 1
BrycePackwood

Pro

thanks for telling me what the scientific meaning of intangible reality is. but to conclude this short argument clearly you do not understand your own argument. you just sided with me therefore this argument is over.
Revolutionist65

Con

You're right!
Debate Round No. 2
BrycePackwood

Pro

thank you for realizing your imputiouse mistake. you will learn how to debate one day. it seems that with practice you will be able to debate
Revolutionist65

Con

I believe it's preposterous that you jump to conclusions, but Thanks for the tip.
Debate Round No. 3
BrycePackwood

Pro

i believe no one needs to vote on this matter so therefore we will end this argument
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Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by RR-5L8S 10 months ago
RR-5L8S
Pro also plagiarized his entire argument from here:

[1] http://physicalworld.org...

This debate has been made invalid.
Posted by RR-5L8S 10 months ago
RR-5L8S
I fail to comprehend exactly how either of your arguments pertain to the topic.
Posted by madness 10 months ago
madness
imabench has been busted for hating gays and blacks, take a look
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