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Dr_Harvey
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sport is still fun

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Started: 7/28/2008 Category: Sports
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
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tormik

Pro

Many athletes after retiring, go back to their chosen sport not because they have to but because they want to. They still get enjoyment out of it and enjoyment is still fun.
Dr_Harvey

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The return of many retired athletes as of late may make people believe that it's all for the love of the game. However, the question in this matter is one of motivation. What was it that motivated these pro athletes to return to their field of play? Let's take for example one of the greats, Michael Jordan. It might seem to the common observer that Michael Jordan returned to basketball for love of the game. Most would not tell you however that he was in the middle of a divorce with his wife and his little stunt with the wizards made Him and the team he owned a lot of money. Professional sports is a business, just like McDonald's. They sell a product and that product is entertainment by the means of talented athletes. People at times fall in love with these athletes and the athlete's price tag goes up. Nothing pays off more than the nostalgia of watching Jordan sink a three just like he did in the good old days. What makes you believe that you have information that can confirm that all pro athletes who return to the game are doing it for the love of the game?
Debate Round No. 1
tormik

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A question, why--, why would they play the sport in the first place if they did not like it or have fun playing it. Please remember that even Michael Jordan was not a pro all his life. Why do you think that he took it up in the first place, it was because he did enjoy the game. I agree that professional sport is like a business, but at the same time, it is alot of fun for the athletes that are doing it. You do not see Serena Williams quit, she enjoys what she does. In an article from an australian tennis magazine in 2007 she said that she would not play the game if she did not like it. It is people like this that are good role models for children and therefore children see how much pleasure the sport gives these athletes and then the cycle begins, they too start playing and enjoying sport. Sport has been around for many centuries, and even the first olympic games, if this was not fun for the athletes, then i am sure that we would not be celebrating the olympics the way that we do today. Keep in mind that these athletes do not get paid but they represent their country and are committed to the sport because they have fun. Michael Jordan that you bring up is a huge name in basket ball. There is other options that he could take, for example advertising, if it was purely for the money. So there for he has gone back to the sport because he loves it because he has fun playing it. There is 82% of people that do some type of sport. They dont get paid, they do it because they have fun, they have fun not only doing the sport they love but also the social side of it as well. Sport is fun all aspects of sport is fun
Dr_Harvey

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I would argue that while for the every day person sport is something to be done at a your leisure, it is not motivated by fun for the pro athelete. This is not to say that they do not have a deep love for the game. They may be very passionate about the sport they are playing but for them the game goes so much farther beyond fun. Sports represent a multi-billion dollar industry that could be defined as entertainment. Why do people become professional athletes? because it's fun? I would contend that it has more to do with the glamour of being a professional athlete not with the fun of playing the sport. Consider as well how many athletes would not continue to play for a team to the same degree if they didn't get paid millions. I would argue that the moment their contract is gone they are to because they are a commodity, a business person, looking for a place to sell their product.
Debate Round No. 2
tormik

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I would like to remind you that this is not about professional athletes and their attitude but more so about sport being fun. While your emphasis is on professional athletes being a multi million dollar industry, I am sure that no body would deny how much some of the professional athletes make. IN Fact they make so much money that they would not have to work or participate at all unless they still got some enjoyment with the sport. So I present to everyone my prodigious argument that sport IS still fun . I would like to end my debate by a couple of quotes and their meanings. One is 'Life be in it' this is encouraging more people to take care of their lives and be encouraged to participate in some sort of sport- to enjoy what they are doing and to have fun.
I am sure that you have heard from many sources that the way to learn something and be good at it is firstly to have a passion and secondly to have fun in what you are doing. by having fun, you learn alot quicker. Sport is still fun. there would not be the amount of people involved in sport if it was not fun. many people think of Summertime as sports mean fun, fresh air, and fitness.

Soccer is the most popular team sport in the world – what more is there to say? This sport that captures the imagination and fun of billions has also led to the creation of a new species – the soccer mom. Ferrying her children to their game, her most pressing thoughts are about whether she was responsible for bringing the bag of orange slices to the game this week as she sits there watching little 'johnny' having fun playing. The sports business journal writes to tell us that sport should be fun safe and accessible to many people. This is what is happening now . there is a deep difference in having a passion and having fun. Sport is still fun for everyone.
Dr_Harvey

Con

I don't think anyone would disagree that sports at their very core are fun. I would argue however that they have become so commercialized and so competitive that the fun is put in the back seat. Take for example childrens little league baseball. I have umpired little league baseball for 9 years. Nothing reminds of the fun of baseball more than watching parents get in fist fights on the field. Or little kids cussing me out after they strike out. I think most would agree that the idea of "it doesn't matter if you win or lose" is far from the minds of parents and children alike today. FUN has taken a back seat to agenda.

Thank you for this debate, even though I am not really sure what you were trying to argue.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by tormik 8 years ago
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THANK YOU FOR DEBATING AGAINST ME. I HOPE THAT YOU HAVE A GREAT WEEK!!

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Posted by tormik 8 years ago
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The topic of the debate is that sport IS still fun
Posted by PoeJoe 8 years ago
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Can you clarify your resolution (what you want to debate)?
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