star wars vs star trek
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GenesisCreation
| Started: | 6/27/2012 | Category: | Entertainment |
| Updated: | 10 months ago | Status: | Post Voting Period |
| Viewed: | 861 times | Debate No: | 24468 |
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 Pro  Con This is entirely off-topic for my genre but we all need a fun debate once in a while. I accept the challenge and will provide sufficient evidence to prove the supremacy of Star Trek over Star Wars. |
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Pro Star war is like Space in the the western age mixed with the dark days but star trek is the future but just has blasters no epic battles with the Force and light sabers Con The supremacy of Star Trek, measured by its cultural, social Science: Tricorders – University of Arizona research
scientist Peter Jensen invented a fully functioning tricorder. The portable sensor unit measures “temperature, humidity, air pressure, magnetic fields, surface temperatures, colors, ambient light level, ambient polarization, acceleration, direction, distance (ultrasonically), and of course it has a GPS receiver.” [1] The unit can even test power outlets by placing the device in front of it. An inductor circuit measures the fluctuating sine wave of traditional 60Hz outlets and displays the waveform on a built-in oscilloscope. This is, of course, keeping with the Star Trek tradition of wireless sensor technology. Phaser – The development of lasers or “photon
collimator devices ”is nothing new. Burning lasers have a variety of functions in a variety of devices. A weaponized version, however, has only been researched at the military level ( MDEAS - Multimode Directed Energy Armament System [3]). That doesn’t stop Star Trek enthusiasts from making their own. (See the YouTube video of home-made phasor, as it blasts through a balloon on the other side of the room).
When a threat from incoming fire is detected by the vehicle, the energy Conclusion - Star Trek -3, Star Wars -0. Social / Political: Racial/Gender/Political Harmony - Star Trek changed the social climate in America, Star Trek was half a century ahead of its competition:
“Roddenberry envisioned a multi-ethnic crew, including an African-American
woman, a Scotsman, a Japanese American, and most notably, an alien, the half-Vulcan Mr. Spock. In the second season Roddenberry added a Russian crewmember at a time when the United States was engaged in a tense cold war with the Soviet Union. Blacks and women were also shown as scientists and doctors on the ship.” Conclusion - Star Trek – 4, Star Wars-0.
Over to you Pro.
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Pro Light saber- [1] The technique used to create the lightsaber effect is pretty straightforward, but tedious. On the set, the actors use props composed of handles that have aluminum rods attached to them, and these rods are the length of the lightsaber "blade." The handles are plastic models and the aluminum rods are painted red or green or blue. The actors use these props as though they were lightsabers.After the film is shot, it is taken to the special effects department. The film is developed normally. In this film, the actors look like they are fighting with painted broomsticks instead of lightsabers. A special effects artist now has the job of making those broomsticks look real. The artist looks at the film frame by frame, and projects each frame that contains a lightsaber onto a clear piece of plastic (an animation cel). The special effects artist draws the outline of each lightsaber blade in the frame onto the cel. Then, for each frame, the artist paints in the correct color for the blade using a bright cartoon color. Eventually the artist has a stack of these cels, one for each frame of the movie containing a lightsaber. The cels are clear everywhere except where the lightsaber blade is seen in each frame. [1] http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com... The force Fields work the same as star trek The star wars saga has lots of people not just White men just you do not see them because of their costumes and most of the woman were governors or slaves to other Aliens Star war was made in many places like where Luke live in the movie a new hope that was in a real place and se of the other movie were made there too. Back to you con. Con Star wars did have some very unique special effects for it's time and with a budget of 3,900,00 USD they certainly did the best they could.[1] Unfortunately, they should have left some money for an editor. (See YouTube video #1) and (YouTube video #2 - Time stamp 1:41 through 5:10). Star Trek followed suit with a powerful motion picture, with a massive overall budget of 46 million USD. The team hired Douglas Trumbull, the genius behind "The Space Odyssey". This special effects magician engineered the most convincing space scenes of the era. [2] You can watch the making of of the motion picture on YouTube video #3. While the battle of "which is more entertaining" is largely left to opinion, the question of "which is better" is undoubtedly in the hands of the creators. This battle, without any doubt, is a clear victory for team Star Trek. They yielded better alien costumes, more advanced space scenes, higher quality alien landscapes, detailed alien languages, huge special effects budgets and techniques that shaped the industry. Star Wars, by comparison, was "made for TV" quality. Over to you Pro. http://io9.com... [1] http://douglastrumbull.com... [2] |
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Pro I'd like to thank the con for this debate this was my 1 debate and I just hope the con enjoy this debate Con I did enjoy the debate very much. It's refreshing to discuss something a little off-topic once in a while. I'd also like to welcome you to DDO and congratulate you on your first debate. I would ask the voters to please not vote for my victory, if that is their initial intention. I would push for a tie. This debate should have been in a forum but my opponent wanted to get some experience. To my opponent: 1.> Use heavy sources. Nothing helps a case like a credible, expert witness. This is a scored category and it can often be a free point if your opponent isn't savy at source citation. 2.> Use your spell-check. The quickest way to disarm a lazy voter is to make sure your spelling and grammar are on point. "One to beam up." -GC |
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Vote Placed by sjps 6 months ago
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Vote Placed by Neonix 8 months ago
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Reasons for voting decision: We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Your syntax and grammatical distincitveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile."
Scored as a tie initially because GC requested it, but I just got done watching the entire Voyager saga. Sorry Bubba. I'm gonna have to stomp this tie.
Vote Placed by Microsuck 10 months ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro loses spelling for the poor spelling he shown. Con wins the source point because he sourced heavily. Finally, see comments for arguments.
I'm not a fan of this type of genre so I'm voting based on who I feel has made the better case. I feel con did because pro conceded some of his points (i.e., better costumes, leave room for editor etc). Overall, I feel pro's case lacked a lot of sources and lacked some important detail.