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NOTRANSENXD
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DrewKaltenberger
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student should have tablet or laptop,for class,not textbooks

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Started: 3/2/2016 Category: Society
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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NOTRANSENXD

Pro

Every year, students in school develop back problems due to carrying the overbearing weight of school textbooks in their book bags. The heavy, lagging weight of a backpack often causes long-term health issues and back pain for students. Aside from notebooks and binders, students also have to carry pencils, pens, and spare paper. The average high school student"s backpack weights between ten and twenty-five pounds, while the average laptop weights between three and eight pounds. A study directed by Brandon Macias of UCSD"s Department of Orthopedic Surgery decided that students often carry backpack loads of twenty-two percent of their body weight when it is only recommended to carry fifteen at most. While laptops are still expensive, ranging from 250-700 dollars each, the price of a single laptop compared to the cost of multiple textbooks is considerably less on the school district"s wallet. Textbooks usually cost around a hundred dollars or more, yet the information gets outdated quickly and schools have to dig out more cash to purchase up-to-date textbooks. With laptops, textbook publishers and teachers would be able to edit and update the information more easily on electronic copies of text. Teachers would be able to select certain pages of workbooks to use online, instead of buying whole workbooks that we only use half of.
DrewKaltenberger

Con

I accept your challenge. I am prepared to offer facts and statistics to back up my claims.
Debate Round No. 1
NOTRANSENXD

Pro

People can type better on tablets, handwriting would not matter. Better prepared for life. Textbooks can get worn out. Can't lose homework. Pads take up less space. Saves paper and Ink cartridges. No pencil sharpening. 1000's of apps. Dictionary on board. It would be a lot less space taking than desktop computers.Textbooks are really bad. They get worn out faster than you think!!! And notebook computers would be better. No more wasting pencils, lead for mechanical pencils. It will just be better with notebook computers instead of textbooks. Textbooks kinda get on my nerves and notebook comoputers don't. I hate textbooks!!!It's only logical Textbooks cost a LOT more than a laptop (200-750). Not to mention the textbooks get outdated and have to be replaced, and weight difference of textbooks to a simple four pound laptop. Doctors say only 15% of one's body weight should be on their back. High school students have 20-25%
DrewKaltenberger

Con

While tech can be great, it also has its weaknesses. For one, its not available in all schools due to the funding needed to find 700+ tablets and/or computers. And if everyone cant have them, then who gets them is the question. Two, while tech makes things easier, that"s not always for the best. According to plagiarism.org, In the US alone, 59% of high school students admitted to cheating on an assessment or paper in 2014, and 39% admitted doing it more than once. With the increase in tech availability, Summarized by the United States Department of Education, the numbers rose to 62% and 43% for both stats in 2015. The correlation proves that technology can be and is being abused in school environments. No matter how many restrictions and rules you put out there, there will always be ways to circumvent them. Addressing your point on backpack size, that is a simple fix that doesn't need any introduction of technology. Introduce lockers, which I"d like to point out nearly all schools have, and extend the passing periods to motivate students to utilize their lockers. To compensate for the loss of education time, simply extend the school day to match the passing period extension, which should be no more than 20 minutes or so. Third, I think its safe to say tech is a pretty big liability for school work. Cloud networks have been known to crash, and internet access can be lost, deleting progress on, say, an essay. If the work is stored internally on a drive, devices are fragile, and if that device is damaged or destroyed, you just lost all your work for school. Sure, get a case you might say. But who will buy those? The school? Certainly not. The students? Maybe, but there are sure to be those who lose them. And talk about theft. There will be students and outside factors who will steal and vandalize such devices for personal gain, and that can cost the student or the school a fairly hefty expense if it occurs multiple times. Besides, schools should be spending their funding on getting better classes and staff, increasing educational standards and scores, not gimmicks that do more harm than good.
Debate Round No. 2
NOTRANSENXD

Pro

It would improve a student's life significantly the everyday weight will be removed, you dont need artifitial light to see students also spend hours on searching for definitions and words witch will only take seconds with the notepad also it can hold thousands of 'pages'withou the need to chop down 1 tree when you use the notebook there is also no need to buy pens and pencils glue or booksalot of students suffer from back injurys thanks to the heavy bags they need to cary all the time alot more can be mentioned but this is the top phew,Every year, students in school develop back problems due to carrying the overbearing weight of school textbooks in their book bags. The heavy, lagging weight of a backpack often causes long-term health issues and back pain for students. Aside from notebooks and binders, students also have to carry pencils, pens, and spare paper. The average high school student"s backpack weights between ten and twenty-five pounds, while the average laptop weights between three and eight pounds. A study directed by Brandon Macias of UCSD"s Department of Orthopedic Surgery decided that students often carry backpack loads of twenty-two percent of their body weight when it is only recommended to carry fifteen at most. While laptops are still expensive, ranging from 250-700 dollars each, the price of a single laptop compared to the cost of multiple textbooks is considerably less on the school district"s wallet.1) They are WAY to HEAVY. (Second graders shouldn't have back problems and scoliosis.)
2) They CONSTANTLY need to be UPDATED. (Electronic textbooks can be updated easier and can reach the students almost instantly.)
3) Textbooks are made of TREES. (Just think of how many trees could be saved by using tablets or laptops.)
And there are kids with back and arm pain from carrying to many books to their next class for 2 classes later only because their locker is not by them but if you have a laptop that is all you need only because you can make seperate folders for each class and the teacher can email you the assignment and you can type in the answers then print it or email it back to them.People can type better on tablets, handwriting would not matter. Better prepared for life. Textbooks can get worn out. Can't lose homework. Pads take up less space. Saves paper and Ink cartridges. No pencil sharpening. 1000's of apps. Dictionary on board. It would be a lot less space taking than desktop computers.
DrewKaltenberger

Con

Your argument is slightly repetitive, which forces me to be also. The benefit loss ratio tips heavily in the direction of loss, as students can abuse steal, or break their devices. Devices also cost a fortune, and schools are not just made of money. The average school has 700 students, and buying 700 tablets for each, even with education discounts from the supplier are provided. Additionally, I provided stats already for plagiarism and cheating rates, along with facts from the Department of Education. Technology facilitates this kind of misconduct, and despite all the benefits tablets may pose, in the ling run, they will end up being a problem. And I"m sorry, If it takes you "hours" to find a word in a damn dictionary, I think you might consider going back to the drawing board on your life. Furthermore, technology is NOT A RELIABLE RESOURCE, as it is more susceptible to fraud and error. And if you think textbooks are fragile, what does that make a tablet or device? Now for some new material.

Its not a one time cost for tablets. What do you think it costs for support for such devices? The average repair cost for a nook or kindle is 100$. Listening to how you spoke of multitasking, I assume you mean a higher quality device, which is even more expensive. This repair process is even time consuming. What if a student needs a tablet they broke, but cant access it because it is getting repaired? Another way technology poses itself as a liability.

Leading on the health side of things, users of electronic devices are 10x more likely to have fibromyalgia and skull muscle disorders. Some of these disorders include shortsightedness (which is a muscle disorder) and neck problems. It can also screw with your sleep cycles as well. Screens cause the brain to release cortisol, a hormone the increases conductivity between neurons. This results in active thought rather than sleep, and sleep deprivation is a massive problem among young adolescents.

So you decide, the voters, whether tablets are worth it or not ;D.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Lisen2Reason 1 year ago
Lisen2Reason
lol love you to.
Posted by DrewKaltenberger 1 year ago
DrewKaltenberger
Yes, YES! SOMEONE WHO AGREES! Thank you Lisen2Reason! I love you XD. JK. But you have a valid point, and one I forgot to mention. While tech makes learning easier, the best education comes from the hard things. Textbooks force students to improvise and learn more difficult material, increasing comprehension and problem solving skills.
Posted by DrewKaltenberger 1 year ago
DrewKaltenberger
Id also like to point out that I posed a solution to your orthopedic problem in my first argument.
Posted by DrewKaltenberger 1 year ago
DrewKaltenberger
There is a thing called a proxy, which is not always blocked. I'm not a computer specialist, but proxies somehow get around firewalls. And not all of these proxies can be blocked. Believe me, kids will go to extreme lengths to find loopholes.
Posted by NOTRANSENXD 1 year ago
NOTRANSENXD
the school could insert a school pluigin to stop kid from search games to play
Posted by Lisen2Reason 1 year ago
Lisen2Reason
they never learn anything because they could just look up every anwer for all things in their schools.
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