the 9/11 conspiracy
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I would like to make clear that I do not claim to know the reason behind the United States 9/11 conspiracy. I only claim that there is an effort to hide the truth, as the evidence does not add up to the conclusion that we would like to come to. I will first be addressing the multiple failsafes that had been bypassed (including the warnings of an impending attack that were received), the inaction of a normally effective NORAD, and the incongruencies of ATC recordings regarding the flights involved. I will go on later to show the strange behavior of the buildings affected by the crash (however, I will not be putting too much emphasis on this) and show how various high-level officials had indications of an impending attack, while federal agencies blocked external investigations and redacted important relevant documents.
Before you proceed with your rebuttals, I would like to hear your main argument as well.
Now as for my rebuttal. First don't put that much faith into NORAD. I would love to sit here and tell you or air defense system is fully efficient, but its just not. Here's a swell statistic for you. In 2000 of all the 67 scrambles of jet fighter to apprehend a suspicious aircraft on 1, and I repeat ONE happened in U.S. territory. And do you know how long it took for that the fighter jet to successfully intercept this ONE plane, 76 minutes. Don't give NORAD that much credit
I can explain the building collapse but I have a question for you? After this debate, or if you want to allow this debate to continue outside the realms of 5 rounds. If I answer all of your questions and prove this theory wrong, will you actually change your mind? Because my goal is just to disprove these deluded claims, but if I can change your mind about this whole think I would love to just to help you see what truly happened but if I can't, then I accept that
I have done my research on the subject as well, and I assure you that I have not watched a single video regarding the subject (unless you count ATC audio recordings as videos). And I very well do accept that fact that planes can slam into buildings... as an aerospace engineering student, my primary goal is to improve aviation safety.
I'm sure you and I can both agree that NORAD officials know their own program much better than you and I do. NORAD officials knew the location of the rogue airplanes (even though the transponders on three of the four flights were turned off) due to sophisticated long-range triangulation. They also had military exercises during the week of 9/11 (Operation Northern Vigilance), so they must have been on heightened alert; this should have lowered the expected response time. However, the air defense system failed in four ways: the FAA took a significantly longer time than usual reporting the missing aircraft and the suspected terrorist operations to NORAD, doing so incorrectly regarding one of the flights which lead to jets being sent out over the Atlantic, which hurt interception chances greatly; NORAD, after finding out about the nature of the aircraft, failed to scramble jets from nearby bases like Andrews Air Force Base (which NORAD did indeed have permission to operate, contrary to claims by the opposition) and instead opted for bases hundreds of miles away; the jets in flight did not fly at speeds required to intercept the airliners (yes, it is against protocol to break the sound barrier in pursuit to intercept, but the F-15s flew at a measly 1/4 of their top speed of 1660 mph. In fact, given the location at the time to the nearest hijacked aircraft, a 600mph speed would have sufficed in catching up to the hijacked plane); and fourth, jets within the vicinity to intercept were not redeployed to chase the hijacked planes.
NORAD General Ralph Eberhart stood by NORAD's timeline release that proved that the jets were scrambled with enough time to intercept the jets if they had operated as per procedure (in fact, the timeline shows they were airborne by 8:52 AM, leaving more than twice the amount of time required to intercept the plane) .
In addition to NORAD's actions, there is evidence showing that knowledge of the attack existed beforehand. During Stock Market trading the days before 9/11, American and United Airlines (the airlines involved in the attacks) recorded a massive increase in put orders. If you're not familiar with put orders, it simply means that individuals bet that the stock price would drop, which they did (in dramatic fashion) after news of the crashes spread. This shows that there is reason to believe that people were aware of the situation and were capitalizing on it to make a good deal of money.
The lack of evidence is also disturbing in this case, and that very fact can be used as evidence itself. Of the black boxes from the four aircraft, only three were found, with only one being in a usable condition (which is bizarre, as many aircraft have experienced significantly more damage to the tail section where the black box is housed - see Air France Flight 447 which crashed into the Atlantic from 38,000 feet and Korean Air Lines Flight 007 which was shot down from 35,000 feet over Soviet territory into the ocean - and have had their respective black boxes recovered). The one that was in usable condition was kept hidden from the public, and the version that was released much later was heavily redacted. In addition, the Department of Transportation confirmed that interviews with air traffic controllers who spoke about their communications with the hijacked planes had been destroyed without being copied or even listened to.
I will reserve more analysis for the next round, mostly because I'm getting really sleepy.
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