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codiz
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LakevilleNorthJT
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the BCS is horrible

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/3/2008 Category: Sports
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
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codiz

Pro

the BCS system is horrible. its keeping the smaller schools such as utah,boise stateand many of non major schools from showing that they can be the best. the only reason th BCS is still running is because "major " conferences think they are better than everyone else.
LakevilleNorthJT

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I will address the few arguments my opponent makes.

"the BCS system is horrible."

Thank you for stating your advocacy.

"its keeping the smaller schools such as utah,boise stateand many of non major schools from showing that they can be the best. "

My opponent never says why this bad. I would argue that this is good. Bigger name schools lead to more viewers which increases the popularity of college football. Also, I would argue that these schools get tp high school recruits meaning that non-major schools are not capable of beating them.

"the only reason th BCS is still running is because "major " conferences think they are better than everyone else."

A conference is not something with autonomy thus lacks the ability to think. Also, major conferences have been winning meaning that they have the right to think they are better than everyone else.

My opponent gives no legitimate reason as to why the BCS is "horrible" as the resolution states.

VOTE CON.
Debate Round No. 1
codiz

Pro

thank you lakevillenorthjt for accepting this debate.

actually, i did state why the BCS system is bad. i said it is bad because it "keeps the smaller schools such as utah and boise state and many other non-major schools from showing that they can be the best."

my opponet said that "bigger name schools would draw more viewers which increases the popularity of college football."
i would argue this because you would have even more viewing if it was a cinderella team playing in a BCS bowl. take Boise State in the 2007 fiesta bowl. that is one of the most exciting games ever played in the history of the BCS bowl system.im sure that game attracted more viewers than some of the other BCS bowl games.

the BCS system is horrible because its basicly saying to the non-major schools and players that play for those schools that you aren't good enough because you play for a school that doesnt have enough history or popularity.

vote PRO.
LakevilleNorthJT

Con

"actually, i did state why the BCS system is bad. i said it is bad because it "keeps the smaller schools such as utah and boise state and many other non-major schools from showing that they can be the best."

Never said you didn't. Your arguments however are not very good.

"my opponet said that "bigger name schools would draw more viewers which increases the popularity of college football."
i would argue this because you would have even more viewing if it was a cinderella team playing in a BCS bowl. take Boise State in the 2007 fiesta bowl. that is one of the most exciting games ever played in the history of the BCS bowl system.im sure that game attracted more viewers than some of the other BCS bowl games."

My opponent contradicts himself. First he says that small schools don't get oppurtunities. He then shows how a small school DID get a oppurtunity to show they were great. On this point alone I win the round.

"the BCS system is horrible because its basicly saying to the non-major schools and players that play for those schools that you aren't good enough because you play for a school that doesnt have enough history or popularity."

I already argued this.

VOTE CON.
Debate Round No. 2
codiz

Pro

i was talking about how when small schools do get opportunities they show that they deserve something better than the BCS (playoff). the small schools have had 3 chances to show there stuff. first (and best) in 2004 the utah utes went undefeated and beat the pitt panthers 35-7 in the fiesta bowl.in 2007 the boise state broncos beat the oklahoma sooners in the fiesta bowl in a overtime thriller. just recently the hawaii warriors didnt do so good. i didnt think they were that good anyway . that just gos to show that the NCAA needs to think of something different.

P.S. Utah is going to do some damage this year
LakevilleNorthJT

Con

"i was talking about how when small schools do get opportunities they show that they deserve something better than the BCS (playoff). the small schools have had 3 chances to show there stuff. first (and best) in 2004 the utah utes went undefeated and beat the pitt panthers 35-7 in the fiesta bowl.in 2007 the boise state broncos beat the oklahoma sooners in the fiesta bowl in a overtime thriller. just recently the hawaii warriors didnt do so good. i didnt think they were that good anyway . that just gos to show that the NCAA needs to think of something different."

1. My opponent is still contradicting the original statement.
2.Also, I would argue that these schools get tp high school recruits meaning that non-major schools are not capable of beating them. (THIS ARGUMENT GETS COLD DROPPED AND ALONE SHOULD BE AN EASY WAY TO VOTE CON.)
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by LakevilleNorthJT 8 years ago
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THIS ARGUMENTG IS OUTSIDE THE ROUND DONT BUY IT. THAT POINT WAS COLD DROPPED THUS I WIN.
Posted by codiz 8 years ago
codiz
in 2001 the utah utes beat one of the best teams with "the top recruits" in the las vegas bowl. thus, "non major" schools are capable of beating the "major" schools
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