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the NEW YORK GIANTS are better than the patriots

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Started: 3/10/2011 Category: Sports
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well to begin i would like to define the topic to historically
historically we have more historic players.
Lawrence taylor changed the way people played football by forcing quarterbacks to enlist better protection. he is in the hall of fame
phil simms holds the record for the best passer rating in the superbowl and is also in the hall of fame


We have Tom Brady, Wes Welker, Ike Vrabel, Tedy Bruschi, Jarvis Green, Vince Wilfork, Rodney Harrison, and Asante Samuel. In historic players, we have, Sam Cunningham, Tony Collings, Babe Parilli, Drew Blesdoe, and Randy Moss. All of these players were in the pro bowl, and considered the best players of there time. Also, Tom Brady has the highest QB rating of all time. So SIT DOWN, homeboy. And also, get stuffed. BOOMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Debate Round No. 1


i said HISTORIC but if you wanna talk now try on justin tuck in his premire season with the giants he posted mething 12.5 sacks in a game average

Now we move into the top ten list. The best of the best. All of these names are immediately recognizable to mostly any Giants fan and most football fans as well.

No. 10 - Eli Manning - QB

Manning is considered football royalty. He is a rare second-generation NFL player. His father, Archie Manning was a two-time Pro Bowl QB.

Eli Manning is the current starting QB of the New York Giants. He was drafted No. 1 overall in the 2004 NFL Draft by the San Diego Chargers and was immediately traded to the New York Giants, at his request, for their first pick, Phillip Rivers.

During his collegiate career, Manning set or tied 45 records with the University of Mississippi. He also won the Conerly Trophy twice. As previously mentioned, this award was named after former Mississippi native and former Giants QB Charlie Conerly ..

He is now best known for the 2007 playoffs. He finished that run as the Super Bowl MVP. He showed poise and determination game after game.

With a newfound maturity, he rose to the occasion of the big stage. In typical Manning fashion, when the game was in doubt and on the line, he led his team downfield with grit and precision.

The defining play is now simply known as "the helmet catch ." He eluded a sack multiple times on a single play and after prying himself out of the opposition's grasp, heaved the ball to David Tyree, who made a miraculous and hard-fought catch.

Tyree refused to give up the ball, and the result was one of the greatest plays in the history of the sport and its championship game.

When this coming season is finished, Manning will be second on the team all-time in passing yards and passing attempts.


No. 9- Tiki Barber - HB

Barber was drafted by the Giants in the second round of the 1997 NFL draft. He played for them for 10 years ('97-'06). The team's original plan was to utilize him as a third-down running back to better complement their power running back, Rodney Hampton.

When he eventually took over the starting duties the following season, he wasn't an instant success.

He was met with skepticism. His first two seasons were filled with nagging injuries and he missed four games of the '98 campaign.

He rebounded the following season into the solid starting running back that we all know. He was a key member of the 2000 Super Bowl team that eventually lost to the Baltimore Ravens.

His early career was filled with questions over fumbles. He coughed up the ball 35 times between '00 and '03. After a slight adjustment, he corrected this and went on to amass impressive statistics.

He finished his career with 10,449 yards rushing on 2,217 attempts, scoring 55 rushing TD's. All of these rank him first overall in Giants history among running backs. He also has totaled 5,183 receiving yards and 12 TD's in his career.

These stats have led to a unique distinction. He is only one of three running backs in league history to rush for over 10,000 yards and receive for over 5,000 yards. The others are Marshall Faulk and Marcus Allen.

He holds 17 records in Giants lore as well. Among them, he has the most rushing yards in a single game (236 yards in Dec. 30, '06), the longest rushing attempt (95 yards) and most rushing attempts in an season (357).

Also, in '05, he made a promise to ailing owner, Wellington Mara, that he would give forth his best effort and they would win.

He ran for over 200 yards in that next game in a shutout win, just two days after Mara was buried.

In his final game with the Giants, he ran for 137 yards and was referred to as "a warrior" by Eagles safety Brian Dawkins . He made three Pro Bowl appearances , including the very last game of his career on Feb. 10, 2007.

After his retirement, he turned to broadcasting and journalism. In his very first season as a broadcaster, he created sparks in the Giants locker room.

His open criticism of the Giants and especially their young QB, Eli Manning, sparked an early response from the team on the field in '07, their championship season. One that Barber was not a part of.

Barber has written several books, both with his twin brother, Ronde Barber (Tampa Bay Buccaneers cornerback) and by himself. He has broadcast the Olympics and currently works for NBC as a pregame host.

He has stirred his share of controversy through his career, but most fans will always remember his speed and determination.

No. 8- Mark Bavaro - TE

Bavaro was a All-American player at The University of Notre Dame and was drafted by the Giants in the 1985 NFL Draft in the fourth round.

Coach Bill Parcells called him "the most impressive rookie he'd seen" in that preseason. He quickly won the job as starter.

Among the other players, he was nicknamed "Rambo" for his toughness and looks. His playing style took the league by storm.

His rookie season saw him set a record for most receptions in a game (12, against Cincinnati on Oct. 13, '85). After that game, one that they lost, Bavaro was quoted about the record as saying "I'd rather win".

He had 511 receiving yards that rookie season. In the following season, he amassed 1,001 yards for the Super Bowl Champions. He played six weeks of that season with a broken jaw, in which he had to sip his food through a straw.

He never missed a play the entire time. It was in the '86 season, that he cemented his reputation as a hard-nosed player.

On Dec. 1, 1986 against the San Francisco 49ers , Bavaro caught a short pass up the middle that he turned into a 20-yard gain after carrying seven players with him, including Hall of Fame safety Ronnie Lott.

The play sparked a comeback in which the Giants won. His career was filled with plays like that one. His strength and sheer will to create yards by raw power is the one thing Giants fans will remember from him.

He was a member of two Super Bowl Champion teams ('86 and '90). He also participated in the Pro Bowl two times ('86 and '87). His Giants career was cut short by a degenerative knee injury.

He did try to come back with both the Cleveland Browns and the Philadelphia Eagles. His impact for them was not nearly that of his with the Giants.

However, he continued to forge his legacy as a tough guy by playing almost three full seasons with that injury, after the Giants cut him.

For his Giants career, he had 3,722 receiving yards, which was first among Giants TE's until Jeremy Shockey surpassed his a few years ago.

His 28 receiving TD's is still first among Giants TE's all time. In his time with the Giants, he continually displayed the heart and the toughness that is Giants football.

The fan base was very angry with the team when he was cut. There are not many players that can be said for, he is one of them.

After his career, Bavaro remained as active in the community as he was in his playing days. He is an avid pro-life activist and a public speaker.

He wrote a novel in '08 called "Rough and Tumble." A fitting title given his playing style and career highlights.

He will always be an endearing figure to Giants fans for his contributions on two championship teams and more so for his example of what it means to be a Giants player.

Both on and off of the field, he remains as humble and as approachable as he was in his prime.

Yet on the field, he was one of the reasons many people grew up Giants fans. Also he was one of the reasons many teams feared playing the Giants. He is a Giant through and through.

Ask any Giants fan, and they will tell you, not many players invoked such memories of power, grit and determination as Mark Bavaro .



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