the catholic church, from an official capacity, has never contradicted itself
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you would think if the catholic church were not true, that it would have contradicted itself at some point in two thousand years.
the only things that count are statements that are authoritative, things that could be considerted "infallible". the pope, intentionally, teaches, the church, on faith and morals. that is the criteria. it includes many councils and other statements by popes.
-this does not include moral corruption, only official teaching. that means you can't use bad priest, even peodofile priests. it means you can't use the inquisistion where millions were killed by catholics. can't use the sins of past popes. it has to be actual teachings of the church, as said, councils and statements by popes. etc. impeccable v infallble, there's a difference.
-since we are comparing official statements, id rather not use the bible either. it's usually too open to interpretation to begin with. we are examining the church's consistency on its own anyway... and you'd think even beyond the bible, it'd have contradicted itself within two thousand years.
-also there's a differnce between widespread belief and doctrine. that so many believed the earth was made in six days, that the earth was flat, that man wasn't from apes etc... only shows they are human. it'd make sense at first impression. this isn't doctrine. you have to cite a quote or citation.
-there's a difference between practice and doctrine too... preistly celibacy is practice, reading the mass in latin is a practice... etc
also try not to be vague. so many claims of contradiction online are superficial. for example, "papal bull regarding jews", without getting into what exactly is contradicting what etc. if possible, find the quote or citation for what you are referring to.
also I have debated this topic many times in the past, if you would like you may review my profile to see all the points brought up by past debaters etc
earth six thousand years old.earth revolves around the sun. this goes along with the idea that the earth is flat that i mentioned. people believed it, and the CC is full of people. it didn't officially teach these ideas. you haven't and can't show the citations or qutoes saying so.
the inquisition and killing lots of people wasn't a teaching of the catholic church. the church was full of sinners. even the apostles sinned yet we take the bible as the end all be all.
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Reasons for voting decision: Very poor debate by both parties. Neither used sources and the arguments made by Con were, although they may be true, were not supported and ineffectively presented. Pro made no arguments, instead trying put all the burden of proof upon his opponent, this debate was obviously skewed toward on side. Conduct goes to Con due to Pro's harsh regulations and criminalization of any possible contradiction.
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