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vi_spex
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atheistliberal
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the default position on any imaginary claim is i know its false

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Started: 8/18/2015 Category: Science
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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vi_spex

Pro

you are not wearing a hat right now because i dont know that you are
atheistliberal

Con

I think the basis of your agruement is flawed. Just because you havent comprehended that I am wearing a hat, doent mean I am not wearing one. This is a variant of "seeing is believing" but what you are saying is "seeing is existing" which is a flawed concept
Debate Round No. 1
vi_spex

Pro

as far as i know you are not wearing a hat, so its true i dont know, and not that you are

i can at best believe what others tell me unless i dont have to imagine it

know=physical experience

to see is to exist.. how could you see without existing..
atheistliberal

Con

You can see something that doesnt exist but just because you dont see something doesnt mean it doesnt exist. You can have hallucinations, which causes you to see something that isnt there.
Debate Round No. 2
vi_spex

Pro

i can see something that dosnt exist? where do i see this exagtly?

its about true and false, not about existence

hallucinations dosnt make things appear in reality thou
atheistliberal

Con

Your brain can cause you to see things that other people cannot see, these are called hallucinations. Its your brain that processes what you are seeing, without the brain, you wouldnt see things because you can process it. Your brain can falsely process what you are seeing and cause you to see something that isnt really there, which is a reason that your claim is faulty.
Just because your brain doesnt process that I am wearing a hat, doesnt mean that I am not wearing a hat in reality
Debate Round No. 3
vi_spex

Pro

i can hallucinate.. but are not.. there, your claim is faulty

i see with my eyes and hear with my ears, life is matter
atheistliberal

Con

I can see with my ears and hear with my ears, but I cannot hear or see these things without my brain processing these things.
Your claim that just because YOU think im not wearing a hat doesnt mean that I am not actually wearing a hat
Debate Round No. 4
vi_spex

Pro

can reality happen? or is it, are you reading these Words, or can you be reading them?

false=imaginary

i know there is no dog in my room right now, and as far as i know you could be a women or a man

kNow=Now

i cant go back in time, so even if i go to your house and meet you and you are wearing a hat, and tell me you have been wearing it all day, i might as well not have gone to your house at all, i still have to imagine it
atheistliberal

Con

Pro, im not exactly sure what point you are making.

What I am saying is that your brain and what you precieve to be true does not corrolate with the existance of the hat.
Maybe to you the hat doesnt exist, but the hat does exist. In your mind the hat isnt there, but in real life it is.

Debate Round No. 5
7 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 7 records.
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
you debate for votes? what is the fun in that
Posted by atheistliberal 1 year ago
atheistliberal
Please vote people. Its no fun when nobody votes
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
impossible is possible by belief
Posted by lol101 1 year ago
lol101
Con wins.
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
only know is true, i can never know if you wore it or not
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
sure

i dont have a religion
Posted by atheistliberal 1 year ago
atheistliberal
Can I accept this debate?
Also, are you religous? I just was wondering
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