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Logan94
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danielawesome12
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the electoral college should be abolished

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Started: 6/8/2013 Category: Politics
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Logan94

Con

opponent makes first argument
danielawesome12

Pro

I think the Electoral College should be abolished.
1. " Sixty-two percent of Americans would prefer that the president be chosen by popular vote, while 35 percent would prefer to keep the Electoral College, according to Gallup's Oct. 6-9 poll of 1,005 adults (margin of error is +/- four percentage points). " [1]
2. Under the curret system our votes don't matter, and are only reccomedations.
3. The Electoral College makes the popular vote irrelevant and has even changed four elections, those in 2000, 1888, 1876 and 1824. This is clearly not in line with the principles of a democratic society. The present system encourage candidates to appeal only to certain swing states in each election.

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Debate Round No. 1
Logan94

Con

1. Even if we did get rid of the electoral college this does not mean that popular vote would take its place. So this point is not topical to this debate
2. Our votes do matter. Electors ALWAYS align with the votes and are very fair. In states where the vote is very close the electoral votes can be split, and have been before, look at nebraska.
3. The electoral college has never changed an election! The electoral college may not have fallen with the popular vote, but they DID NOT CHANGE THE ELECTION! also this has only happened in four elections this is less than 3% of all elections held in the United States. and yes this does align with democracy because we have the right to vote, we hold PEACEFUL elections, and ever four or eight years we go through a peaceful transition of government. Many nations can not say that. The electoral college is a very fair way to elect a president.

Also if we used popular vote this would give the democratic party a large advantage. 250 million of the 300 million americans live in cities. Residents that reside in cities trend to vote democratically. This would give democrats a huge advantage in many states with close voting in the electoral college and would turn the elections mainly democratic.
danielawesome12

Pro

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Debate Round No. 2
Logan94

Con

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danielawesome12

Pro

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Debate Round No. 3
Logan94

Con

I hope my opponent will reply,
Along with my other arguments it also protects small cities and states from being over seen. New York City has a population of 12 million while the state of Iowa has a population of 5 million. If we changed to popular vote the midwest would not be important, and big cities would be the focus of the election. many voices would not be heard and that is
NOT democracy
danielawesome12

Pro

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Debate Round No. 4
Logan94

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danielawesome12

Pro

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Debate Round No. 5
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