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ras2000
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Cobo
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the miami heat is the best basketball team of all time

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Cobo
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 5/22/2012 Category: Sports
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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ras2000

Pro

please do not judge for grammar.

I know that the Miami heat is the best basketball team of all the NBA
first we got three boss players: LeBron James and Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh.
second we are 2006 champions.also we were so close to win the playoffs in 2011.and we are going to win 2012 playoffs.
Cobo

Con

I would like to thank the pro for this debate and would also like to say "GO OKC!!"
But aside from that lets get to the debate.

My opponent gives the miami heat as the best basketball team ever, instead of only disputing this claim I will also give the team that i think is the greatest.
That team is the mighty 1995-96 Chicago Bulls[1]
When addressing my opponents claims I will also give the comparison to the Bull, by making my case out of his case.

Player's argument
First of all Chris Bosh, one of my opponents star players, is injured[2] So this take away one third of his "boss" players
Also it has been commonly known that the "star" Lebron James is not clutch at all[3] But while I will agree Wade is decent He certianly does not deserve the title of "Boss". But three players(Actually two) Can not carry a team to being the best, A Diverse team full of amazing players ad better than two/three decent players. In fact on the game on May 15, 2012 Lebron James and Dwyane Wade accounte for 52 of the measly 75 points[4]

Like the Heat does have a big three that does a high percentage of the scoring
These three were Dennis Rodman, Scottie Pipen and Micheal Jordan. But the back up players are great too
With Steve Kerr(the most accurate 3-point shooter in history, Toni Kukoc(The season NBA sixth man), Luc Longley(Highest blocks per game on the team and the first Aussie in the NBA) and more, you have great backups, in the case of Chris bosh, if someone gets hurt.

Former Champions argument.
While this argument can't really be applied, It allows me to use the 1996 bulls as my representive team.
Also I would like to note that this bulls team won a total of 3 together and 6 in the 90's.
I would also like to note that getting close doesn't make you the best and that you cannot predict the future.

Also some quick arguments about my team
Has the best regular season record at 72-10
The big three of the Bulls were all elected to the NBA-All Defense Team-First Team

I will post more if my opponent does not forfiet the next round..




[1] http://en.wikipedia.org...

[2] http://bleacherreport.com...

[3] http://onebasketball.wordpress.com...

[4] http://www.nba.com...
Debate Round No. 1
ras2000

Pro

ras2000 forfeited this round.
Cobo

Con

Extend all arguments....
Debate Round No. 2
ras2000

Pro

first my con said that Dwayne wade is good and if the bulls are so good then why are they not in the east finals guess who is in the east playoffs the Miami heat. okay in the 90's the bulls were good because of mj 23. so what if bosh is injured he is still boss. also Lebron won mvp. also my pro said former champions. go Miami

please dont vote me bad because i was not here on round 2
Cobo

Con

I would like to thank the pro for an amazing debate.

Players point.
I agreed to the point of Dwayne wade being good, but my opponent also agreed to the point of MJ being amazing aswell.
So now it comes down to the backups. With Chris bosh out then it's only lebron. who is already disputed.
And you say tht lebron is this season MVP even though he's already recieved it two other times but has yet to win a championship. I would also like to note that MJ won MVP five times andstill managed to get more championships then MVP awards.

The pro did not attack my backup players at all so this leads to them being superior.

Former Champions point
Okay They were champions in 2006. But the bulls were champions in 1991,1992,1993,1996,1997,1998
So lets compare: 6 championships versus 1.

Overall point
My opponent's point about current cannot weighed heavily because this debate is talking about dynasty teams and not seasonal teams. Even if the miami heat win this year it will still be two rings against three.

So Judges ask yourself these questions....
Who was more successful? Who won the most?
Who has more championship rings?

Debate Round No. 3
ras2000

Pro

ras2000 forfeited this round.
Cobo

Con

Two forfiets from my opponent.
Please vote how you would like....

Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by Cobo 4 years ago
Cobo
I will post my arguments after Wednesday...Or that night....
Posted by ras2000 4 years ago
ras2000
i am not a girl
Posted by Mirza 4 years ago
Mirza
No thanks Ma'am. My interest in this is smaller than an atom.
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Vote Placed by Zaradi 4 years ago
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ras2000CoboTied
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro was screwed when he put "of all time" in the resolution, which let con use the '96 Bulls on him. Nothing's better than the '96 Bulls.
Vote Placed by Contra 4 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Better case, PRO forfeited
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Reasons for voting decision: Forfeits, and bad grammar
Vote Placed by Xerge 4 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Conduct to con for the two forfeits by Pro. Con also presented a more compelling case on why the Bulls were better than the Heat, negating the resolution.