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dairygirl4u2c
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Ameliamk1
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the roman catholic church has never contradicted itself

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dairygirl4u2c
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Started: 3/31/2013 Category: Religion
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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dairygirl4u2c

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in this debate, i am not counting the issues of limbo, or "no salvation outside the catholic church".

you would think if the catholic church were not true, that it would have contradicted itself at some point in two thousand years.

the only things that count are statements that are authoritative, things that could be considerted "infallible". the pope, intentionally, teaches, the church, on faith and morals. that is the criteria. it includes many councils and other statements by popes.

note: this does not include moral corruption, only official teaching. that means you can't use bad priest, even peodofile priests. it means you can't use the inquisistion where millions were killed by catholics. can't use bad popes. it has to be actual teachings of the church, as said, councils and statements by popes. etc. impeccable v infallble, there's a difference.
since we are comparing official statements, id rather not use the bible either. it's usually too open to interpretation to begin with. we are examining the church's consistency on its own anyway... and you'd think even beyond the bible, it'd have contradicted itself within two thousand years.
also there's a differnce between widespread belief and doctrine. that so many believed the earth was made in six days, that the earth was flat, that man wasn't from apes etc... only shows they are human. it'd make sense at first impression. this isn't doctrine. you have to cite a quote or citation.
Ameliamk1

Con

I will be arguing the position that the Catholic Church has many times contradicted itself in doctrine and practice. Assuming this is an acceptance round, I would like to clear something up. Are you talking about contradictions in the church itself, contradictions in the bible, or contradictions between the church and bible?
Debate Round No. 1
dairygirl4u2c

Pro

contradictions within the church itself.
as i said, biblical stuff don't count. either against itself or the church. as i said, the only things that count are statements that are authoritative, things that could be considerted "infallible". the pope, intentionally, teaches, the church, on faith and morals. that is the criteria. it includes many councils and other statements by popes.
Ameliamk1

Con

Ameliamk1 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
dairygirl4u2c

Pro

reiterate
Ameliamk1

Con

Ameliamk1 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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