The Instigator
wwb371
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The Contender
LakevilleNorthJT
Con (against)
Winning
74 Points

the topic of this debate is creation vs evolution which is basically how u think we came about peace

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 5/23/2008 Category: Religion
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 2,197 times Debate No: 4160
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wwb371

Pro

my opening argument is dat the fact that we came from monkeys is ridiculous and offensive. im not saying that monkeys are stupid but doezn't it seem kinda strange?
LakevilleNorthJT

Con

Since my opponent did not define the scope of the debate, I will do so now. The current form of the resolution is undebatable so I will try to explain it. The resolution is comparative between creation and evolution. My opponents burden thus is to show that creation is a likely source for the creation of the universe and to show why the theory of evolution is bad. My burden is to refute my opponents arguments against the theory of evolution and show why it makes sense. So now I will address my opponents arguments and bring up some of my own.

"my opening argument is dat the fact that we came from monkeys is ridiculous and offensive. im not saying that monkeys are stupid but doezn't it seem kinda strange?"

Throughout the first round my opponent only makes one argument: The idea that humans came from monkeys is ridiculous. I have two responses.

1. My opponents burden is to disprove evolution. He does this by saying that it is ridiculous that we came from monkeys. My first response is that just because something is ridiculous but that doesn't mean it's untrue.

For example:

a. I might think it is ridiculous that there are billions of stars in the sky, but that doesn't mean it's not true.

b. I might think it's ridiculous that the earth contains billions of people, but that doesn't mean it's untrue.

c. And finally, my opponent might think it ridiculous that we evolved from monkeys but that doesn't mean it's untrue.

My second response to my opponents first argument is that he doesn't address creation at all. His advocacy is supposed to be that creation is more reasonable but he does not show why. He has been unable to prove his position and thus, you can't let him win the round.

Now I will provide my own arguments as to why evolution is reasonable and why you must vote for me in this round:

1. Proof Exists: The following website-(http://www.allaboutcreation.org...) explains, In his pivotal opus Origin of Species (1859) Darwin presented various evidences for proof of evolution. Among these he sited domestic breeding, anatomical similarities among species ("homology"), the sequential order of fossils, the presence of "vestigial" organs, and the natural phenomenon which he dubbed "natural selection."

2. My opponent has failed to meet his burden. His opening argument was a ridiculous claim and he offered absolutely no argumentation as to why creation outweighs evolution.

In this round, my opponent has failed to succesfully argue cration or successfully disprove evolution. I have presented that there is proof for evolution and none for creation. Thus, in this round you vote CON.
Debate Round No. 1
wwb371

Pro

wwb371 forfeited this round.
LakevilleNorthJT

Con

My opponent failed to post within the alloted time which cause the forfeiture of last round. This should lead to an automatic win for me because of the following three reasons.

1. My opponent started this debate and thus not making an argument in round 2 is unacceptable.

2. All of my arguments have been flowed through to the next round.

3. My opponent has failed to bring up even one reasonable argument for his side.

VOTE CON.
Debate Round No. 2
wwb371

Pro

wwb371 forfeited this round.
LakevilleNorthJT

Con

My opponent failed to post within the alloted time which cause the forfeiture of last round. This should lead to an automatic win for me because of the following three reasons.

1. My opponent started this debate and thus not making an argument in round 2 is unacceptable.

2. All of my arguments have been flowed through to the next round.

3. My opponent has failed to bring up even one reasonable argument for his side.

VOTE CON.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Derek.Gunn 8 years ago
Derek.Gunn
It depends what you mean by "better".
Things evolve enough to survive, and typically they stop there.
If they lose a predator or competitor, they often lose the abilities they formerly needed.
e.g. here in NZ we have a number of flightless birds because birds arriving here found no predators.
Posted by Marvel819 8 years ago
Marvel819
isnt the one main proponent of evolution the idea that everything is getting better?

speking on that. consider the second law of thermodynamcis....
basically the universe is getting worse...not better and better...
things naturally DEgenerate.
people for instance.
Posted by kgantchev 8 years ago
kgantchev
Well its insightful, the least to be said. It shows you the type of people that exist on this world... it shows you that we're not that far from animals.
Posted by qwarkinator 8 years ago
qwarkinator
I have not regressed that far but let me tell you I have heard the horrible stories
Posted by kgantchev 8 years ago
kgantchev
qwarkinator, have you seen the video?
Posted by qwarkinator 8 years ago
qwarkinator
To bring up that disgusting abomination of video proves how much regression can be found within the human race.
Posted by Marvel819 8 years ago
Marvel819
Large scale changes from one organism to another have yet to be proven. so evolution is automatically non-scientific as it is not observable. evolution is simply an assumption upon the topic of micro evolution. which states that small changes in the gene pool is the reason for different species of organisms, such as dogs.

now, consider the intricate design of all organisms. it points to a creator. the teleogy argument in other words. the more we discover details about the universe the more we dicover design.
Posted by kgantchev 8 years ago
kgantchev
Actually people do a lot worse than fling poo: ever seen 2 Girls 1 Cup? :)
Posted by qwarkinator 8 years ago
qwarkinator
Go on youtube people fling poo too. It is not just for the chimps.
Posted by Derek.Gunn 8 years ago
Derek.Gunn
Actually, chimpanzees delight in flinging their turds around.
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