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rhunt91
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candice
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the u.s. should make school optional instaed of mandatory

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/7/2008 Category: Education
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
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rhunt91

Pro

i think it should be optional because kids already dropping out of school now when there are being told to go to school if we make it optional i tell kids are going to stop dropping out
candice

Con

Our Country is already behind others in terms of schooling. Japanese students are far more advanced in math and science, and so are German ones. If anything, our school system needs to be revamped and taken more seriously. Pro, your argument of some are going to drop out anyway is slightly ridiculous. Yes, a small percentage of people will drop out. Which is unfortunate. How does this justify our country completely ignoring the problem all together?

Let's say that your wish comes true, and school is no longer mandatory. There will be thousands of unaccounted for youth's running the streets during the day. Schools keep American youths controlled and educated. As an American, I find it necessary to educate today's youth for tomorrow's progress. Without school, working parent's would have to pay double, triple, or quadruple what they would otherwise for daycare.

The literacy rate (which is at 97% right now) would plummet.

A lesson that all must learn in life, is that we must sometimes do things we don't necessarily want to. Not only is school teaching children math, science, history, literature, grammar, and countless other things; it is teaching them a sense of personal completion and assuredness. You must complete things. When things get difficult, you must stick it out and keep on trucking! Isn't this the spirit that America embodies?

So, your theory of: <> won't work. A 16 year old kid won't wake up and say to himself... "hmm... I don't have to go to school... so I think I will. The 16 year old wakes up, and thinks to himself: " I have to hurry and get to school, or I'll be late". Structure, discipline, and certified education. Parents, and children should be held legally responsible to educate the youth of this country.
Debate Round No. 1
rhunt91

Pro

rhunt91 forfeited this round.
candice

Con

I'm sorry that my opponent has no retort. Hopefully next round, they will have gotten around to finishing, and will reply to my arguments. Thanks for reading!
Debate Round No. 2
rhunt91

Pro

rhunt91 forfeited this round.
candice

Con

Hopefuly we all support America's youth staying in school. Sorry, to the readers of this debate it wasn't much of a debate! Thank you for reading, though!
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Ragnar_Rahl 8 years ago
Ragnar_Rahl
At the moment I'm a student so no, candice. A technicality in state procedures prevents me from working.
Posted by Danielle 8 years ago
Danielle
I don't agree with Pro, but I'd love to try and debate it! Someone challenge me :)
Posted by candice 8 years ago
candice
Oh yes, the long road... so you don't work?
Posted by Ragnar_Rahl 8 years ago
Ragnar_Rahl
". You can hord your "fortune" and move to Canada"

No I can't. Canada would enslave me too, and more effectively.
I cannot hoard a fortune because I do not have one, and any attempt to make one in any short order would result in government confiscation. Therefore I'm taking the long road, which will no doubt result in very little fortune, but if successful will result in freedom to use that fortune.

"I'm sorry your not for the progression of the country."

I am in fact, just in a different direction than you. You want this country to progress toward every citizen being enslaved to whatever every other citizen demands of them. I want it to progress toward every citizen being free to live their life as their own.

Simply because one does not feel an "obligation" does not mean one does not desire a thing for other reasons.
Posted by candice 8 years ago
candice
I'm sorry your not for the progression of the country. You can hord your "fortune" and move to Canada. Don't even worry about it, you probably don't pay taxes anyway.
Posted by Ragnar_Rahl 8 years ago
Ragnar_Rahl
"American's NEED to educate the young people of this country."
If such a need is present, fulfill it with voluntary funds (i.e. private education).

"We have an obligation to keep America moving, growing and developing."

I don't know about you, but I have incurred no such obligation. I never signed any such contract.
Posted by candice 8 years ago
candice
Wow, so people actually think that we should all be walking around, not trying to better this country that is ours? It's hilarious how people complain of our governments faults, but don't want to do anything to actually fix, and better it! American's NEED to educate the young people of this country. We have an obligation to keep America moving, growing and developing.
Posted by Ragnar_Rahl 8 years ago
Ragnar_Rahl
Allow me to translate rhunt's argument into english.:

"I think school attendance should optional. This is because students are dropping out of school anyway even when required to attend. If we make it optional they will stop dropping out."

I agree with her but don't see the logic in this.

Keep in mind sadolite, rhunt91 is the typical product of the American school system. Any stupider and I'd probably vote for her as her existence would prove it's failure :D.
Posted by sadolite 8 years ago
sadolite
Rhunt91 probably didn't make a rebuttal because she couldn't read Candice's rebuttal. That alone is reason enough for kids not to drop out of school. Can anyone make sense of Rhunt91's opening argument.
Posted by Ragnar_Rahl 8 years ago
Ragnar_Rahl
The United States of America was founded on an ideal known as liberty. Not herd-everyone-into-education-camps.

That said, Pro failed here :D
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