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V5RED
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theism is atheism

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Started: 9/14/2015 Category: Science
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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vi_spex

Pro

if i take my hand behind my back, and claim i am showing 3 fingers, is it true for you to say yes vi you are?

you can believe that i am showing 4 fingers, or 5, and if you believe my claim that i am showing 3 fingers behind my back you are an atheist to the guys believing that i am showing 4 or 5 fingers
V5RED

Con

The skeptic(what you are calling the atheist) will not believe any number of fingers because the skeptic lacks sufficient information to come to a conclusion. The gullible person(what you are calling a theist) will accept some belief without sufficient evidence.

As to the point of the debate, theism is the belief in a god or gods, atheism is the lack of any belief in any god or gods.
Debate Round No. 1
vi_spex

Pro

atheism is a theism, belief to the contrary

if you disbelieve my claim that i am showing 3 fingers behind my back what, is your position on my claim?

non belief=i accept i dont know

disBelief=belief
V5RED

Con

You just violated the law of noncontradiction and the law of identity.

You posted that x=~x where x=belief.
Debate Round No. 2
vi_spex

Pro

disbelief is belief to the contrary

atheism=disbelief=belief=theism

only 3 positions exist, yes no or maybe on an imaginary claim, theism, atheism and agnostic

yes=you are showing 3 fingers behind your back vi
no=you are not showing 3 fingers behind your back, you are showing 4!
maybe=i dont know
V5RED

Con

No, belief to the contrary is to assert ~x.

To be in disbelief is to neither assert x nor ~x.

For any proposition, you can believe it is true(ie believing x), believe it is false(ie believing ~x), or hold no beliefs about its truth value(ie neither believing x nor ~x)
Debate Round No. 3
vi_spex

Pro

so if you disbelieve my claim.. believe that i am not showing 3 fingers, what is your position on my claim?

what is your position if you believe my claim is false?
V5RED

Con

I believe that you are trolling. Your claim is prima facia false.
Debate Round No. 4
vi_spex

Pro

you are con so you show me how
V5RED

Con

I already demonstrated that your position is incorrect and you offered no counter. The burden of proof, by the way, rested with you.

It is clear that you failed to demonstrate your claim and it is obviously false.
Debate Round No. 5
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