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hect
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Kaceyadamus
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there is no afterlife

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/12/2015 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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hect

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Debate Round No. 1
hect

Pro

First of all I must start by saying on relation the the question is there an afterlife? We must all admit we don't know thats because we can't know so the people who have to leave the debate right away are those who claim they do. We can only make logical arguments that lead to the assumption on the issue.

Now to my arguments I will present throughout the debate.
I think it is obvious that the concept of an afterlife is a man made idea constructed for a number of reason I shall discuss. The first being consolation and wishful thinking; it's obviously comforting if your child just died but your are told not to worry because he/she is going to a better place, which in my view is a slightly immoral idea because it's to say any thing that makes you feel better is fine, drugs can also make you feel 'better'.
The other is control and power as for centuries the afterlife has represented a claim by humans to be able to interpret the divine thus give themselves power by doing so.

Now on to the point of eternity the afterlife represents, sure the first 100 years or so may be enjoyable in heaven/ other religious equivalent, maybe even the first few hundred but what about after 1000, 10 000, 100 000, 1000 000 and ad infinitum things would surely start to seem repetitive and mundane and would start to look alot like hell.
We all know the party of life is going to end, eventually you will be tapped on the shoulder and asked to leave; the party is going on without you but you must leave. This is where the afterlife comes in, you are told you go to another party but someone comes and tapes you on the shoulder but this time tells you you can never leave and what's more demands you have a good time. This cannot be believed by a thinking person.

Also who determines what beings gain access to the afterlife is it just the human species, how does one determine this; via DNA? Scientists have sequenced the genome of the chimpanzee and found that humans are 96 percent similar to the great ape species (1). So apes to maybe then you must go down the gene pool to squirrels, rats, fish and bacteria. and if animals are not allowed in the afterlife what happens to them?

Closing point I think It is fairly obvious that the state/ non state after death is parallel to what you experienced before conception/birth.

source:
1. http://news.nationalgeographic.com.au...
Kaceyadamus

Con

Kaceyadamus forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
hect

Pro

bruh... I really wanted to have this debate
Kaceyadamus

Con

Kaceyadamus forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
hect

Pro

I think I should be awarded points as my opponent forfeited.
Kaceyadamus

Con

Kaceyadamus forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by hect 1 year ago
hect
well then bible prophecy accept the debate and forward your arguments
Posted by Dragonfang 1 year ago
Dragonfang
Sounds like a very easy debate. Would probably be busy in the next three days, so I'll join by then if nobody does.
Posted by Bible-Prophecy 1 year ago
Bible-Prophecy
IS THERE LIFE AFTER DEATH?

Jesus Christ said,

"He who believes in Me will live even though he dies,... (John 11:25).

"I tell you the truth, whoever hears My word and believes Him (God)

who sent Me has eternal life and will NOT be condemned;

he has crossed over from death to life." (John 5:24).

To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord

(2 Corinthians 5:8),in that "the spirit returns to God who gave it."

(Ecclesiastes 12:7).

Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord....(Revelation 14:13).
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