The Instigator
1hns117
Con (against)
Losing
0 Points
The Contender
Zero
Pro (for)
Winning
22 Points

today's society

Do you like this debate?NoYes+0
Add this debate to Google Add this debate to Delicious Add this debate to FaceBook Add this debate to Digg  
Vote Here
Con Tied Pro
Who did you agree with before the debate?
Who did you agree with after the debate?
Who had better conduct?
Who had better spelling and grammar?
Who made more convincing arguments?
Who used the most reliable sources?
Reasons for your voting decision
1,000 Characters Remaining
The voting period for this debate does not end.
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 8/16/2008 Category: Society
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 1,580 times Debate No: 5030
Debate Rounds (1)
Comments (2)
Votes (6)

 

1hns117

Con

everyone wants a good , better society, but it is not a luck for everyone to get a good society because today every one becomes selfish society. if some one need help in neighbour nobody help them because they thought if they help them they also fall in trouble .yhey have bad feelings for one-another. this shows their ingratitude for them . their are also many hints which shows that today's society becomes no valuevable.
Zero

Pro

First, let us define good ( http://www.merriam-webster.com... )

"1 a: something that is good b (1): something conforming to the moral order of the universe (2): praiseworthy character : goodness c: a good element or portion2 a: advancement of prosperity or well-being b: something useful or beneficial 3 a: something that has economic utility or satisfies an economic want bplural : personal property having intrinsic value but usually excluding money, securities, and negotiable instruments cplural : cloth dplural : something manufactured or produced for sale : wares, merchandise eplural British : freight4: good persons —used with the5plural a: the qualities required to achieve an end b: proof of wrongdoing
— for good also for good and all
: forever, permanently
— in good with
: in a favored position with
— to the good
1: for the best : beneficial 2: in a position of net gain or profit "

In response to the instigator . . .

"everyone wants a good , better society"

No doubt about that.

"but it is not a luck for everyone to get a good society because today every one becomes selfish society."

Well yes, there is no doubt that all people by technicality, act based on self interest, but this is entirely non sequitur, as acting on self interest does not negate an improving society. In fact, people who wish for their to be good are by technicality wishing based on self interest; to be truly selfless is impossible.

The many who have contributed technological innovations such as the Cell phone (which has done plenty of good, as people have an easier time staying in communication which other, which contributes in saving lives as well as maintaining relationships) or the Internet have done the society plenty of "good" as would be suggested by my definition. The point here is that our constant improvements constantly make society better and better, which is contrary to what you're advocating. Furthermore, even though these inventors were acting off self interest, their actions still brought much good to society, therefore proving the instigator's stance false.

"if some one need help in neighbour nobody help them because they thought if they help them they also fall in trouble"

This is a very flawed assertion as you are applying it to everyone, however, history tells us of many heroic people who have been willing to put their lives on the line to save others.

"they have bad feelings for one-another. this shows their ingratitude for them"

I'm not certain what is being stated here, but I'm sure it's just another example of actions which don't apply to everyone.

"their are also many hints which shows that today's society becomes no valuevable."

Perhaps (as in there may be some problems with society), but we're arguing on whether or not there is any good in society, not if it is perfect. And based on the performance in R1, the instigator has by no means proven his stance, therefore, it is quite obvious that the win should go to me. Thank you.
Debate Round No. 1
2 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 2 records.
Posted by gahbage 8 years ago
gahbage
Oh well.. Easy win =P

25 characters
Posted by Zero 8 years ago
Zero
In hindsight, this guy is probably a spammer, so it probably would have been better if I didn't take this debate.
6 votes have been placed for this debate. Showing 1 through 6 records.
Vote Placed by Logical-Master 8 years ago
Logical-Master
1hns117ZeroTied
Agreed with before the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Agreed with after the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Who had better conduct:-Vote Checkmark-1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:-Vote Checkmark-1 point
Made more convincing arguments:-Vote Checkmark-3 points
Used the most reliable sources:-Vote Checkmark-2 points
Total points awarded:07 
Vote Placed by s0m31john 8 years ago
s0m31john
1hns117ZeroTied
Agreed with before the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Agreed with after the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Who had better conduct:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Made more convincing arguments:-Vote Checkmark-3 points
Used the most reliable sources:--Vote Checkmark2 points
Total points awarded:03 
Vote Placed by Puck 8 years ago
Puck
1hns117ZeroTied
Agreed with before the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Agreed with after the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Who had better conduct:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Made more convincing arguments:-Vote Checkmark-3 points
Used the most reliable sources:--Vote Checkmark2 points
Total points awarded:03 
Vote Placed by Rezzealaux 8 years ago
Rezzealaux
1hns117ZeroTied
Agreed with before the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Agreed with after the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Who had better conduct:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Made more convincing arguments:-Vote Checkmark-3 points
Used the most reliable sources:--Vote Checkmark2 points
Total points awarded:03 
Vote Placed by gahbage 8 years ago
gahbage
1hns117ZeroTied
Agreed with before the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Agreed with after the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Who had better conduct:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Made more convincing arguments:-Vote Checkmark-3 points
Used the most reliable sources:--Vote Checkmark2 points
Total points awarded:03 
Vote Placed by Zero 8 years ago
Zero
1hns117ZeroTied
Agreed with before the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Agreed with after the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Who had better conduct:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Made more convincing arguments:-Vote Checkmark-3 points
Used the most reliable sources:--Vote Checkmark2 points
Total points awarded:03