The Instigator
The_Serb
Con (against)
Losing
0 Points
The Contender
Ragnar
Pro (for)
Winning
17 Points

torture is often justified

Do you like this debate?NoYes+1
Add this debate to Google Add this debate to Delicious Add this debate to FaceBook Add this debate to Digg  
Post Voting Period
The voting period for this debate has ended.
after 4 votes the winner is...
Ragnar
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/24/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 877 times Debate No: 46566
Debate Rounds (4)
Comments (2)
Votes (4)

 

The_Serb

Con

Well Iraqis were tortured under Saddam
They were tortured during the war
They are tortured today

btw: torture is often justified

http://0.tqn.com...
Ragnar

Pro

I accept the challenege. Please state your opening case.
Debate Round No. 1
The_Serb

Con

The_Serb forfeited this round.
Ragnar

Pro

While I hoped the roles would be switched, I shall now argue decisively in favor of torture...

Opening Argument:
Torture should not be used lightly or to the extreams, but basic tortures such as depriving someone human contact or access to the bathroom, may open them up to giving vital information leading to a greater number of people being safe than the harm done to the one tortured. This is basic math of utilitarian morals.
Debate Round No. 2
The_Serb

Con

The_Serb forfeited this round.
Ragnar

Pro

Michael Dunn commited murder over musical taste. The family of the victim would be well justified to expose him to that very same music during the trail, to throw him again into a murderous rage. Him trying to kill again in trail would prove to everyone what a danger he is, thus keep people safe from next time he decides to wage a one man war for musical snobbery.
A time for torture.

Further life in prison is torture instead of killing someone, yet it is often the humane option of choice. Our prison systems in fact are basically to torture people into not doing it again (rehabilitation would be a better system, but the current one is better than just putting them down like animals guilty of the same crimes).
Debate Round No. 3
The_Serb

Con

The_Serb forfeited this round.
Ragnar

Pro

No contest. Vote for me.
Debate Round No. 4
2 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 2 records.
Posted by The_Serb 3 years ago
The_Serb
such a pity that I forfeited this debate

do you also think that there are a place for hardcore torture in times of war?
Posted by gkoz23 3 years ago
gkoz23
Change debate time to 24 hours and I will accept
4 votes have been placed for this debate. Showing 1 through 4 records.
Vote Placed by Actionsspeak 3 years ago
Actionsspeak
The_SerbRagnarTied
Agreed with before the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Agreed with after the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Who had better conduct:-Vote Checkmark-1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Made more convincing arguments:-Vote Checkmark-3 points
Used the most reliable sources:--Vote Checkmark2 points
Total points awarded:04 
Reasons for voting decision: FF
Vote Placed by XLAV 3 years ago
XLAV
The_SerbRagnarTied
Agreed with before the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Agreed with after the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Who had better conduct:-Vote Checkmark-1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:-Vote Checkmark-1 point
Made more convincing arguments:-Vote Checkmark-3 points
Used the most reliable sources:--Vote Checkmark2 points
Total points awarded:05 
Reasons for voting decision: Con presented no arguments and forfeited.
Vote Placed by Krazzy_Player 3 years ago
Krazzy_Player
The_SerbRagnarTied
Agreed with before the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Agreed with after the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Who had better conduct:-Vote Checkmark-1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Made more convincing arguments:-Vote Checkmark-3 points
Used the most reliable sources:--Vote Checkmark2 points
Total points awarded:04 
Reasons for voting decision: Full forfeit and no contest by Con.
Vote Placed by oculus_de_logica 3 years ago
oculus_de_logica
The_SerbRagnarTied
Agreed with before the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Agreed with after the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Who had better conduct:-Vote Checkmark-1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Made more convincing arguments:-Vote Checkmark-3 points
Used the most reliable sources:--Vote Checkmark2 points
Total points awarded:04 
Reasons for voting decision: triple ff. Con made next to no arguments while pro made a good amount of them.