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true math=physical experience

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/17/2015 Category: Science
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 336 times Debate No: 82713
Debate Rounds (5)
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vi_spex

Pro

true is in any case the non belief position

belief=(2+2=3)
know+knowledge=(2+2=4)
Stupidape

Con

Resolution: true math=physical experience

Many people know that 10*1,000,000 = 10,000,000. Yet, there is no physical experience. This is completely in the abstract. Let's say if this was sheets of paper. A huge box contains a million pieces of paper and there are ten boxes. Nobody is going to count a box with a million sheets of paper, then multiply by ten, and then count all ten boxes each with a million pieces of paper. Just to verify that 10*1,000,000 really is 10,000,000.

The physical experience isn't there. Yet, we all know that ten million is the correct answer.
Debate Round No. 1
vi_spex

Pro

1=something

any step beyond 9 is a step into infinity

how do you know what a box is..
Stupidape

Con

You don't need to physically experience any numbers to understand them. Math is abstract similar to philosophy.
Debate Round No. 2
vi_spex

Pro

you need to see a number to understand what its used for and what it is
Stupidape

Con

There is any number of ways to first perceive a number. Hear from a teacher, feel with your hands, taste x number of tater tots, smelling y number of baked potatoes, and yes finally seeing with your eyes.

Yet, once the first few numbers are understood via the five senses, a person can use his or head mind to understand new numbers.
Debate Round No. 3
vi_spex

Pro

you agree
Stupidape

Con

Negative, Con does not agree.

true math=physical experience is the resolution. A person never physically experiences calculus. You will never physically experience f(x) = 3x^4 + 10x^3 + 12x^2. Find the derivative of f(x).

Yet, this is what a beginner's calculus class looks like. This is math. Now imagine an advanced calculus problem. Pro has yet to clarify what the difference between math and true math is.
Debate Round No. 4
vi_spex

Pro

what is the point of the equation if it isnt related to anything.. f and 4 might as well represent 0 then
Stupidape

Con

The point of the equation is to provide busy work for students and so the professor has a job. Also, the piece of paper called a degree.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
know is true, like 2+2=4

nja
Posted by NikolaGustav 1 year ago
NikolaGustav
Well, what if you believe that 2+2=4...

Also, could you challenge me to another "Human=Fish=Life" debate please? I didn't respond in time and now it's canceled :(
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Vote Placed by 16kadams 1 year ago
16kadams
vi_spexStupidapeTied
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Reasons for voting decision: lol. Pro never proved that doing math was a "physical" experience. Con actually showed why it should be considered an abstract experience rather than a physical one. And vi_spex was... vi_spex...