The Instigator
Marda
Pro (for)
Losing
8 Points
The Contender
darkkermit
Con (against)
Winning
13 Points

tupac owns bigggie

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darkkermit
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 8/27/2010 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (2)
Comments (39)
Votes (4)

 

Marda

Pro

tupac owns bigge smalls specially with hit em up do you gotta betta song den that?
darkkermit

Con

I'd like to thank my opponent for starting this debate.

Tupac did not own Biggie, since ownership involves possession. Since slavery in America no longer exists, it is not possible for Biggie to be a slave. Although human trafficking does occur, I do not believe that Biggie was a slave for the following reasons:

1) Biggie was born in the United States. Human trafficking occurs from smuggling people from one country to another.
2) Biggie spent his money. If Tupac owned Biggie, then Tupac would have taken all of Biggies money.
3) Biggie was too popular for his life as a slave by Tupac to be unnoticed. Somebody would speculate and the media would have discovered this incident.
4) Biggie and Tupac lived too far away for Biggie to be Tupac's slave. If Tupac were to own Biggie, then he would have to live closer, to better control him.
Debate Round No. 1
Marda

Pro

wtf u on about

im talkin about OWNING. not self whatever.

check it :

http://www.urbandictionary.com...

OWN to be bet.
darkkermit

Con

Since Pro did not provide a definition of "own" in the first round and left the meaning of "own" very ambiguous, I was right to assume the definition of own to be "involving possession", especially since Pros definition of "own" is not defined in the dictionary http://www.merriam-webster.com..., but rather in the urbandictionary. However, I will make an argument using Pro's definition, even though this is the last round, due to the misunderstanding.

However looking at the definition of "own":

1.To win a round in a game. (usually a video/pc game) 2.To beat someone at a game.(usually a video/pc game) 3. To be better at someone. (usually a video/pc game)

Where does tupac own biggie? What game is tupac winning? If we're referring to in the context of rap, I'd like to note that one cannot 'beat' someone in rap (no pun intended) since the music industry is not a contest, it is about creating a music that others enjoy and that you enjoy. There are no winners or losers, since some artist prefer to reach different audiences, while others wish to reach a broad audience. However, biggie is a distinguished rapper, with MTV ranking him the third greatest rapper of all time and obtained a four time Platinum album for "Ready to Die" http://en.wikipedia.org...

While based on what I stated about the music industry earlier, while I really can't prove that biggie is a better rapper than tupac, since it is subjective, you can't prove that tupac is a better rapper than biggie so the resolution is negated.
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by ittastenasty 6 years ago
ittastenasty
wasnt 2pac voted #2 onthe MTV ranking
Posted by Loserboi 7 years ago
Loserboi
don't worry Marda, try again next time, but yeah you need to word it correctly so people don't abuse you, there are a lot of darkkermits on this site.
Posted by darkkermit 7 years ago
darkkermit
Yea, considering that you only got 8 points, winning by 5 points is a good lead. Nobody really "votes" for someone completely or not. They give points based on the debate. Two people gave more points to me, two people gave more points to you. However those who gave more points to you also gave a point to me, while those who gave points to me gave none to you.

Stop whining about it. Start a new debate, word your resolution correctly, and learn to debate correctly. This is my third debate, and I have won all of mine so far.
Posted by Marda 7 years ago
Marda
yeah u won by whole 5 points

i got 2 people more for me and you got 2 people more for you

its a tie!
Posted by darkkermit 7 years ago
darkkermit
I have officially won this Marda.
Posted by Marda 7 years ago
Marda
i have no phone so i cant

loser you must vote for me!
Posted by Loserboi 7 years ago
Loserboi
just vote for urself
Posted by Marda 7 years ago
Marda
i have 2 people or me but they are willing to be fair unlike postup!!

this is an outrage!
Posted by darkkermit 7 years ago
darkkermit
You mean I-am-a-Panda who friends basically friends everyone and Postup10101 who I don't even know?
You know, there was a debate that stated that "kissing has no special meaning it's just like holding hands". I then proceeded to argue that kissing does have a special meaning, it means to press one's lips against another.
Posted by Marda 7 years ago
Marda
hes getting all his friends to vote for him! i told you this was ninja tricker!
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