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vi_spex
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Preston
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unawarness is the only sIN, as i cant be resonable if i dont know

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Started: 7/9/2015 Category: Religion
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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vi_spex

Pro

on the opposite side of sinning is telling the truth, as if i sin i cant tell the truth

as certain i am that i see rocks, is as certain i am that i dont see god, that is the truth
Preston

Con

Unawareness does not excuse mistakes:

Legally:
Ignorance of the Law Is No Excuse:
Assuming the law is available publicly, even if you dont know it you still had the opportunity to do so, and by choosing to avoid learning of it you do not excuse yourself from the mistake.

If you had never been taught that murder was illigal, if you murdered 30 people, you would still be punished

If you didnt know that you had to follow speed limits and you go 30 over, you still are punished

If you poach but didnt know it was bad, you are still punished.
Debate Round No. 1
vi_spex

Pro

morality=reason+INTENT

but driving around in a car it should be clear there are rules to follow..

would you consider yourself immoral if you sat down on a bench and a new law permitted that within that time Space you are will be fined 500 dollars becasue the time Space is for cleaning it

would you feel immoral?
Preston

Con

The question isnt about morality, its about legality. Someone can perform acts of civil disobedience and yet still be moral.
Debate Round No. 2
vi_spex

Pro

the law can be immoral, therfore a sin, so it is about morality

is it wrong to reason about rape?
Preston

Con

Your resolution contains 2 parts, one of which is" i cant be responsible if i don't know" morality has nothing to do with it. You have to show that you can break rules without knowledge and not be held responsible. If you cant do that then you lose.
Debate Round No. 3
vi_spex

Pro

immorality=wrong=unresonable=illogical

is it logical to feed your kid battery acid if you want it to be healthy? resonable?
Preston

Con

so first off you are wrong:

Immorality = not moral = Violates personal standards

none of this is says you can break laws or violate rules and get away with it.
Debate Round No. 4
vi_spex

Pro

beLief=wrong=illogical=imaginary
knowledge=right=logical=memory(truth)

i dont understand what you mean by rules, if you push some one of a Cliff you might feel bad about it, you might have to think about will some one find out, and if some one does find out, then you will have to deal with that

there is no order in the jungle, but evil dosnt exist in reality
Preston

Con

BOP failure, so you vote for me... pretty strait forward, goodluck writing any rfd.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
perhaps there is an, assert.org you can join
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
i think the moon is made of cheese right now
Posted by ChickenBakuba 1 year ago
ChickenBakuba
That sounds very clich", just like vi_spex. I don't even need to look at the title.

Bad Spelling, Bad Idea (They're not very bad, but I don't actually think them right)
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