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mikkedavis87
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The Contender
Benjamin_Manus
Pro (for)
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under god in the pledge

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Benjamin_Manus
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/15/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (2)
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mikkedavis87

Con

keeping the words under god goes against the first amendment
Benjamin_Manus

Pro

Agreed, if people were forced to say "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance, that would be violating their First Amendment rights. But the fact is they aren't. In schools, students have the option to abstain from the entire pledge or two omit parts of it. This case has already been brought before the United States Supreme Court and they decided to allow students in school to do exactly that (abstain or omit). Obviously, government/affirmative must win because in real life, they already have.
Debate Round No. 1
mikkedavis87

Con

true but just the fact that the atheist have to hear it makes them uncomfortable
Benjamin_Manus

Pro

If it makes them uncomfortable, they can excuse themselves from the room. Teachers must allow that.
Debate Round No. 2
1 comment has been posted on this debate.
Posted by 21MolonLabe 2 years ago
21MolonLabe
mikkedavis87,
When Christians, such as myself, here the phrase "Oh my God." do you not think that it makes them feel uncomfortable? People say it all of the time anyway.
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Reasons for voting decision: Religious freedoms allow it.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro's case was rather unique... I haven't seen that argument before. It stands after Con failed to address it. Con's case was rather weak in R2, when it came down to saying "but it makes them unhappy..."... It'd make Christians unhappy not to hear it, so what your point? Advice: Con would benefit from some debate structure and organizing his arguments better and using more substance. Con should make more use of his space to put in some arguments. One-liners and small rounds are always a bad move. Pro and Con can always PM me for clarification or advice.
Vote Placed by 9spaceking 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: pro shows that under god should be kept because students have the freedom to choose whether or not to say it