The Instigator
Bees
Con (against)
Losing
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The Contender
Chrysippus
Pro (for)
Winning
16 Points

violence is the last refuge of incompetent, or the incompetence leads to violence?

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Chrysippus
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/29/2014 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 1,657 times Debate No: 51191
Debate Rounds (5)
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Bees

Con

Please comment
Chrysippus

Pro

"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent" is a quote from Isaac Azimov's novel Foundation. The character Salvor Hardin, a ruthless politician who uses underhanded but clever tactics, uses it to describe the unsubtle efforts of his opponents.

It means violence is used by people who are too unintelligent or incompetent to achieve their ends by less crude measures.

Sadly, this is not yet a debate. My opponent has not stated a position or a contention. I have commented, as asked. I assume, since he chose to be "con," that he does not believe that violence is the last refuge of the incompetent? Perhaps he thinks they prefer to begin with violence to persuade others, and if that fails, they gradually work their way through their options until they reach interpretive dance?

Please clarify. Inquiring minds want to know what your position is on this issue, Bees.
Debate Round No. 1
Bees

Con

Bees forfeited this round.
Chrysippus

Pro

...I should have expected this.

Every time I do this, I swear to myself that I'll only ever again accept debates from people who have debated before. Should have just let this one go. It could have been an interesting topic, given the right opponent; it could have been a fun exchange, even with a poor opponent. But when he doesn't even log in again after posting the debate, there's nothing to do.

/post
Debate Round No. 2
Bees

Con

Bees forfeited this round.
Chrysippus

Pro

Filling space.
Debate Round No. 3
Bees

Con

Bees forfeited this round.
Chrysippus

Pro

Wasting time.
Debate Round No. 4
Bees

Con

Bees forfeited this round.
Chrysippus

Pro

So much for that.
Debate Round No. 5
1 comment has been posted on this debate.
Posted by CJKAllstar 3 years ago
CJKAllstar
They are the same thing, aren't they? Violence is the last step that an incompetent person takes, or incompetence leads to violence, they are the same thing!
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Reasons for voting decision: Guessing a school project, should probably be deleted... However conduct for FF.