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what is ISLAM

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Started: 1/26/2014 Category: Religion
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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therightpath

Pro

The wordIslammeans voluntary “Submission” or “Surrender” to the Will of God. It derives from the root word “salam,” meaning peace.
In the Quran, God defines that the only purpose for which He created mankind is to Worship Him. Islam recognizes that humankind has free choice in whether to obey or disobey God, but ultimately we will be held accountable to God in the next life for the choices that we make in this life.

God sent Prophets to teach mankind how to worship Him; starting with Adam, including Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and the last of the messengers, Muhammad (peace be upon them all). The Islamic position is that all of these prophets came with the same message, that there is no deity worthy of worship except the One True God, known in Arabic as Allah.
Islam recognizes the close relationship between the body and soul. Whereas the body originates from the earth and has a defined period of life on this earth, the soul originates from God and does not die. Islam encourages the individual to focus on keeping the soul healthy, through the remembrance, obedience and worship of God. There should be a correct balance in strengthening the soul and not over-indulging with the pleasures of the body.
Islam is a natural way of life that encourages one to give due attention to their relationship with God and His creation. Islam teaches that it is through the doing of good deeds and seeking the pleasure of God that souls find true happiness and peace. It is in this context that the word Islam derives from the root word “salam,” or peace.
dupdupjones

Con

Hello. As you have not made it clear what the topic of the debate is I will take it that you wish to discuss the definition and nature of Islam. You have given an Islamic definition of Islam and I shall now give a non-Islamic definition. Islam to me the belief in the Koran and the belief that the Deity described in this text is real and that Mohummad is his prophet. The existence of Islam causes violence, not due to the fact that Muslims aren't violent but due to the fact that were there is religion there will be extremism. Your definition of Islam is that it is submission to God. I feel that large part of being good is to be humble, and asking people to submit to you is not humble. This means that either God is not good or that your definition is wrong. You also state that there are consequences for not believing in the Islamic god, this is unfair as most people adopt the religion of their as that is what they were taught during childhood. This means that if God punishes people for being raised differently.
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Posted by LAZARUS77 3 years ago
LAZARUS77
@PiercedPanda
"Do you realize how odd that sounds? So if I'm a child, I can bomb the entire city of Toronto and not be judged because I am immature? If the person is immature or mentally wrong, they should just be judge the same way as normal people. They are people to, their issues should not be an excuse not to be judged."

what a clever man trying to catch any fault with it. this answer coming from the point that child cant grasp or have the capacity to understand the world aroud him, begining from sex to making decisions, im not talking about childerns who bomb citiies abusing this deliberately.

"Unless he repents, believes, and works righteous deeds, for Allah will change the evil of such persons into good, and Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful," [S"rah al-Furq"n: 70]"

you wrote - "That is just like covering a lie with a truth. What someone did should still be judged. It can't just be washed away, what they did is wrong. And if they cover it up with good just to not be judge for their wrong doing, they are doing wrong."

you giving ways how to cheat and pass around mercy of God, GOD IS NOT STUPID. if your intention is to cheat by this way DO YOU REALLY THINK YOU CAN CHEAT GOD THE ALL KNOWING MOST JUST AND MOST WISE? your ideas is foolish and should be using in preschools.

"That is just like covering a lie with a truth."

You eating eggs and few hours latter you excereting $hit. so dont eat man you turning food to $hit.
Posted by Seeginomikata 3 years ago
Seeginomikata
So what's the point? This isn't a debate, its a tautology. Islam is Islam because it is Islam. That cannot be debated. Restart with a topic that we can actually have an argument over.

Is Islam good or bad? Should more people convert or not? Should Islamic law be changed?
Those are topics we can debate. The basic ideals of an intangible idea are not debatable because basic ideals define the idea.
Posted by Romanii 3 years ago
Romanii
Shouldn't this be a forum topic?
Posted by PiercedPanda 3 years ago
PiercedPanda
"in Isalm God will not judge if the person is mentally worng or not mature. "

Do you realize how odd that sounds? So if I'm a child, I can bomb the entire city of Toronto and not be judged because I am immature? If the person is immature or mentally wrong, they should just be judge the same way as normal people. They are people to, their issues should not be an excuse not to be judged.

""Unless he repents, believes, and works righteous deeds, for Allah will change the evil of such persons into good, and Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful," [S"rah al-Furq"n: 70]"

That is just like covering a lie with a truth. What someone did should still be judged. It can't just be washed away, what they did is wrong. And if they cover it up with good just to not be judge for their wrong doing, they are doing wrong.
Posted by LAZARUS77 3 years ago
LAZARUS77
@bubbatheclown im not a scholer or something like that but i can answer by some points.

in Isalm God will not judge if the person is mentally worng or not mature. God only judge according to his conditions...
"Good outweighing bad" absolutely possible, there are many many ways that makes easy for us to accomplish this one, some references...like

"Unless he repents, believes, and works righteous deeds, for Allah will change the evil of such persons into good, and Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful," [S"rah al-Furq"n: 70]

"Establish worship at the two ends of the day and in some watches of the night. Lo! Good deeds annul evil deeds. This is reminder for the mindful." [S"rah H"d: 114

hadith:
"O son of Adam, as long as you call upon Me and put your hope in Me, I have forgiven you for what you have done and I do not mind. O son of Adam, if your sins were to reach the clouds of the sky and then you would seek My forgiveness, I would forgive you. O son of Adam, if you were to come to Me with sins that are close to filling the earth and then you would meet Me without ascribing any partners with Me, I would certainly bring to you forgiveness close to filling it."

"Allah has divided mercy into 100 parts, and He retained with Him 99 parts, and sent down to earth 1 part. Through this one part creatures deal with one another with compassion, so much so that an animal lifts its hoof over its young lest it should hurt it." (Al-Bukhari)

Say: O My servants who have transgressed against their own souls, despair not of the mercy of Allah. Indeed, Allah forgives all sins. Truly, He is Most Forgiving, Most Merciful. (Surah az-Zumar 39:53)

And whoever does a wrong or wrongs himself, but then seeks forgiveness from Allah, he will find Allah forgiving and merciful. (Surat an-Nisaa 4:110)

etc...
Posted by NiqashMotawadi3 3 years ago
NiqashMotawadi3
How is this debate debatable?
Posted by bubbatheclown 3 years ago
bubbatheclown
But what about sin, or whatever it's called by Muslims? Does Allah ignore or overlook some sins? If he is a just God, then he cannot overlook any sin, even if it's something small like one baby stealing a cookie from another baby. Are the consequences of sin simply overlooked, unless it's a lot of sin?
If that is the case, think about how much human beings sin. "Good outweighing bad" is simply impossible, even for a Muslim Wali or a Christian Saint. How about if you have intrusive thoughts? It would be well-nigh impossible for a person with intrusive thoughts to enter Jannah, which would be unjust, because such a person cannot help having intrusive thoughts.
Posted by TheSquirrel 3 years ago
TheSquirrel
"Adam, including Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and the last of the messengers, Muhammad"
Wow, really took an all knowing omnipotent THAT long to get your message across? YEAH... I can't worship a god that incompetent.
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Vote Placed by 9spaceking 3 years ago
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