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askbob
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where oh where has my little dog gone

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Started: 2/13/2011 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Voting Period
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davidhancock

Pro

ok for this pick a place and defend it with your life good luck has anyone else noticed the lacking of a certain gender i.e women
askbob

Con

Der Deitcher's Dog is the popular children's tune that was written by Septimus Winner.

In the ditty Septimus tells us in the third verse, just where we can expect the dog.

"Across the ocean in Garmanie"

Garmanie is a purposely misspelled text for Germany.

That's where the dog is.

He's in Germany.
Debate Round No. 1
davidhancock

Pro

The world in which we live is a lie wool pulled over our eyes
THE MATRIX Written by Larry and Andy Wachowski in 1999

MORPHEUS The Matrix is everywhere, it's all around us, here even in this room. You can see it out your window, or on your television. You feel it when you go to work, or go to church or pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth. NEO What truth? MORPHEUS That you are a slave, Neo. That you, like everyone else, was born into bondage...... kept inside a prison that you cannot smell, taste, or touch. A prison for your mind. Outside, the WIND BATTERS a loose PANE of glass. MORPHEUS Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself.

I believe that that dog has left the matrix and oh and he came to the real world

begin argueing your side
askbob

Con

I believe the dog is in the real world and is in germany although probably long dead so a part of the earth in germany.

My opponent has not negated this fact and affirmed that he is in the real world.
Debate Round No. 2
davidhancock

Pro

ok so to answer my opponets arguement i did argue against it by saying this world is a lie therefore my dog is in the matrix two he never sited his source therefore i say he is pulling it out of his ars his only answer is that i didnt answer so you vote pro on presumption the dog is in the real world not this false reality vote pro
askbob

Con

My opponent is clearly lying about his arguments.

As is evident, in his round 1 argument he stated: "I believe that that dog has left the matrix and oh and he came to the real world"

He believes as you can clearly see that his dog is in the real world and definitely not in the matrix. Which, as I pointed out in Round two, only supplicates my point.

However in his round three, he has started out by lying and saying: "therefore my dog is in the matrix" which is clearly a lie.

In terms of citing my source:

http://www.songwritershalloffame.org...
http://www.musicanet.org...
Debate Round No. 3
davidhancock

Pro

he still consides my he went to the real world arguement what i said was

ok so to answer my opponets arguement i did argue against it by saying this world is a lie

his arguement against this was i never answered his song but by calling the world a lie i did clearly answer his arguement because in a lie nothing can be true also he calls me a liar i made a spelling mistake also he says that his dog is in germany but out of the matrix but since his song was made in a lie it is taken as a lie therefore the dog is out of the matrix and not in germany
askbob

Con

"he calls me a liar i made a spelling mistake"

Let us re-examine the sentence my opponent claims is a misspelling.

"I believe that that dog has left the matrix and oh and he came to the real world"

I see no misspellings in this sentence at all. My opponent is doubly proved in being a liar. First for lying about his original lie and saying it was not a lie. Second because there were no misspellings in his entire sentence.

My opponent claiming the complete opposite of what he wrote makes him incoherrent not simply a bad speller.



"Also he says that his dog is in germany"

No I'm saying the "my little dog" as featured in the song is in Germany as is clearly stated in the Third Verse of the ditty.

"but out of the matrix "


Yes.

but since his song was made in a lie

My opponent gives no sources as to why the song is a lie. Even if it is a fictional work, the dog then is also fictional and resides in a fictional Germany. Regardless, my answer is correct.

"therefore the dog is out of the matrix"


My opponent again agrees with me that the dog is not in the matrix which furthers my proof of where the dog is.

The matix as defined by morpheus is the actual world where there is no germany. The "Dream World" is where Germany exists.

Source: http://www.imdb.com...

"and not in germany"

My opponent has not said where the dog is or why he cannot be in Germany? This is not a refutation of my argument but a mere statement of opinon.

Debate Round No. 4
davidhancock

Pro

bro you win i have to get ready for nat quals i would have debated you better sorry
askbob

Con

My opponent has conceded the debate. Vote Con.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Cliff.Stamp 6 years ago
Cliff.Stamp
"Still confused."

It is a logic game which starts with a nonsensical assertion which then has to be argued as if it could actually be substantiated. The point is to try to create a coherent and logical argument when the topic is inherently insensible.
Posted by Pastafarian 6 years ago
Pastafarian
You sir are the king of trolls.
Posted by mongeese 6 years ago
mongeese
Still confused. Could you organize your sentence more clearly?
Posted by davidhancock 6 years ago
davidhancock
if you can argue where my dog is better than opponet then you win like if i say mars you say front yard i say not on mars you say not in yard but you have to use logic
Posted by mongeese 6 years ago
mongeese
You might want to clarify this debate, a lot. How does Con win? How does Pro win?
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Reasons for voting decision: I definitely had better spelling, I put more effort into my arguments, my opponent conceded the debate which is the ultimate convincing point, and I used more reliable sources as well as logic.