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where the holy wars justifiable?

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Started: 1/22/2014 Category: Religion
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cjegal

Con

Where the holy wars justifiable? The holy wars and crusades are not justifiable as regardless of the papal endorsement, they did not follow the conditions of a just war, it caused great loss of life, and had no reasonable chance of success, therefore it is immoral and therefore not justifiable.
hexfirewell7172

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I will be arguing that the wars were justifiable, not intelligent
1. No war is just
2. most wars cause a great loss of life (would you like to argue no war is justifiable?)
3. The chance of success is not required for justification. If the reasons for fighting are good than the war is justifiable.

In terms of incentive, the wars were supposed to strengthen the church's power which was considered just and holy at the time and the Turks posed a threat to the Byzantine Empire and east Rome
Debate Round No. 1
cjegal

Con

The holy wars did not follow the just war theory, it was constant futile attacks on the holy land, innocent civilians where killed, also agree that all wars are not just, but as it was a war between the catholic church, they disobeyed their own rules and values in the holy wars, this is shown here
http://www.bbc.co.uk...
and here
https://www.mtholyoke.edu...
since these conditions where not met, it is therefore unjust for the Catholics.
hexfirewell7172

Pro

Just war was officially outlined in in the 13th century, while the first crusade began in 1095.
http://www.iep.utm.edu...
http://www.history.com...
They still gave their lives to something they considered just. The slave revolts in America had little chance winning yet they gave their lives to something bigger. The Catholics who fought were following the words of god (the pope) thus justifying their actions. There were also attempts to protect civilians.
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Posted by hexfirewell7172 3 years ago
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