The Instigator
Romans1.20
Pro (for)
Losing
3 Points
The Contender
RationalMadman
Con (against)
Winning
33 Points

why is it that some religions dont believe in the trinity? Trinity is real.

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RationalMadman
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/8/2012 Category: Religion
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (3)
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Romans1.20

Pro

Why is it that some religions do not believe in the trinity, when there is an example of it in the first sent of the bible... Genesis 1. The first sent is talking about time,space,and matter. In the begining=(time) God created all the heavens=(space) and the earth=(matter).
RationalMadman

Con

Because if Islam were to have a trinity, it would defeat the philosophy of Muhammed not being divine and being a humble servant of God.
Debate Round No. 1
Romans1.20

Pro

Genesis1- God is talking about time, space, and matter. In the beginning=(time) God created heaven=(space) andthe earth=(matter).Whatis Time-pass, present, future. Whatis Space-width,depth,height.Whatis Earth/Matter-solid,liquid,gas What are you a human- body,soul,spirit.Or mind,body,soul. See the understandingoftrinity is allaroundus.ReadRoman1:20(in my own word Romans 1:20 says that God say if you can't understand the trinity look at what I made. Atom-protons,neutrons,electrons.Tree-root,trunk,leaves.Music-melody,harmony,rhythm.The understandingis allaround us
RationalMadman

Con

RIght and on top of everything you just said, if Islam were to have a trinity, it would defeat the philosophy of Muhammed not being divine and being a humble servant of God.
Debate Round No. 2
Romans1.20

Pro

I just don't get it Mohammad. Really its a fact he gave and broke his own laws with having more than 4 wifes. He told pagan people stop praying to the 360 idol-gods then told them to pray to pray to the Allah, which was the name of the main god the moon-god. Mohammad admits to getting a false revaluation from the devil. Which Moses said in Torah is how you know that they are a false profit when they give a false revaluation and that they where to be stoned. Its fact that Mohammad took his own sons wife for himself. I just don't get it, because everybody knows Allah was pagan god in pre-Islamic times. Why is Allah never defined in the Quran? The old testament rebuked the worship of the moon-god. You always see this moon and star on hats and buildings. Some still pray toward the Mecca several times a day; kissing the black stone; sacrifice to the moon-god; fasting for the month which begins and ends with the crescent moon. I just don't get how he could break his own rules over and over and take from his own family and other and lie and admit to it and pick and choice what he wants out the bible and people still have faith in him I just don't get it. Islam means surrender and Allah is moon-god. I just don't think its the same God of the bible, Islam just bible verses in it.
RationalMadman

Con

Nowhere in your debate have you proven the bible real and simply negating Muhammed's morality does not negat the point that if Islam were to have a trinity, it would defeat the philosophy of Muhammed not being divine and being a humble servant of God.

Thank you, goodbye.
Debate Round No. 3
1 comment has been posted on this debate.
Posted by tmar19652 4 years ago
tmar19652
In Islam you are allowed to have up to 4 wives as long as you can support them all equally.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro... didn't really make an argument. Not in the sense of 'trinity is real'. And of course not all religions believe in the Bible...
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Reasons for voting decision: see RyuuKyuzo comments
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro failed to fulfill his burden of proof, and his S&G was indicative of someone using a keyboard with no space-bar.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro had the burden of proof, but didn't make sense. Pro's S&G was bad. My other votes are to offset Riddler's votebomb.
Vote Placed by drafterman 4 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: BOP not supported.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pros arguments are invalid and make no sense. I just usually give all seven points to who I think won so........
Vote Placed by RyuuKyuzo 4 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Meh. not much to judge on either side, but Pro had the BOP and didn't fulfill it, so arguments to con.
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Reasons for voting decision: Rational Madman got better spelling, so S/G goes to him. Arguments to Con because Pro have not proved the Trinity real, and therefore have not fulfilled his BOP. Also, "The understandingis allaround us" is not a valid argument, therefore Pro have not fulfilled his BOP