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x-men movie version would win in a battle against avengers movie version

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Started: 4/4/2015 Category: Movies
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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lord_megatron

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While the Avengers are quite Over-powerful, the x-men are simply more in number. Also this battle would include villains as well, and the avengers don't have much of a villain. Even hulk can be taken care of by Collosus fist and wolverine, and magneto can immobilize iron man. Even if the phoenix is not active, the avengers would stand very little chance against this mutant army.
Duncan

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If you intend to use X-Men villains here, don't forget the Avengers have Loki, and Ultron and Thanos as enemies, the latter being the would-be wielded of the infinity gauntlet, if currently incomplete. However, the Avengers ready have the Aether and Tesseract, both of which have planet destroying potential. Tony also has that house party protocol too, which now has the Hulkbuster added to it. Numbers aren't' a problem for the Avengers. Not even Dark Phoenix could stand up to that kind of line-up.
Debate Round No. 1
lord_megatron

Pro

As for iron man, magneto will lock all his metal suits up. I don't have information on the Avengers 2 villains yet, but don't forget professor Charles can turn half of the human-heroes to our side. Iceman, Pyro and Storm can work together a fire-ice-lightning beam. We also have nearly immortal Wolverine, and power-absorbing Rogue. If we aren't considering dark phoenix, cyclops as a last resort can open his eyes for a mega-laser blast. The Juggernaut is a good match for hulk as well. Mystique can use disguises to infiltrate and create chaos in the avengers team. Spikes and super speed(forgot their names) are some good soldiers as well. The Beast would provide them support. And there was this flying bird guy similar to the falcon, the x-men would overpower the avengers with sheer numbers.
Duncan

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I'm starting right off the bat with your comment on Wolverine being immortal. By acknowledging age in the debate, I will have to address reluctantly the fact that Magneto and Charles are both very old, so much so that they would find it very difficult to fight or exercise their powers on such a large scale, and wouldn't last very long. Sorry about having to say that. Don't forget who else was in the Avengers 2 trailer; Scarlet Witch. She's an Avenger now, and she's also Magneto's daughter, and while it's difficult to say what her powers in the film will be, her comic powers involve being able to manipulate the universe itself. Cyclops can't really aim the full blast either, and friendly fire would be a given there. Mystique can't really match Loki's own power as the God of Illusion, as well as the mind control staff he uses (which might even have its own infinity stone). And you can't really sow chaos in the Avengers; there'd have to be order first.. Not sure who you mean by Spikes, but Quicksilver? That's Scarlet Witch's brother. She can easily beat him. Beast is a low rent hulk at the end of the day there. Don't forget Blade is technically an Avenger, he had his own film, and he's a vampire (daywalker to be precise). What use is Banshee's sonic waves and gliding be compared to armies upon armies of both Tony and Ultron's mechs, and before you say Magneto, remember if he really could stop the house party, then Days of Future Past would make no sense because Sentinels are made of metal, so there's a clear limit to what he can control. The X-men may have outnumber named characters, but the Avengers would have both an army AND a hulk this time.
Debate Round No. 2
lord_megatron

Pro

I start off with Proffesor Charles being old. You forget that his machine, Cerebro, made by beast, enhances his power ten-fold. He could kill all members of the Avengers that have a brain, and turn Loki's soldiers back to his side. Magneto couldn't defeat sentinels as they could adapt to any mutants' powers. Nightcrawler has teleportation abilities to match Loki's mirror image ability. Blink can open teleportation portals and Bishop can fire with energy-absorbing powers. Deadpool and Deathstrike would make good soldiers. Gambit would do good too. Havok can absorb repulsor rays and hurl it back. Jason Stryker can create telepathic illusions to confuse the Avengers. Quicksilver is a mutant as well, so we can keep him aside for this one. Rogue can absorb powers of captain america maybe, and Kitty Pride can slip through any structure. Wolverine's half-brother Sabretooth can do good damage as well, and don't forget mighty Weapon-X. I don't see how could the Avengers hold this threat off.
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Duncan

Con

Perhaps the memories of the films are rusty in your memory, but cerebro based under the university (aka in the most vulnerable position for a SHIELD airstrike which would level the building with all the mutants inside). That would be the first target in their fight. It may suprise you that the whole "teleport people into the air" thing won't work on most Avengers, as the ones with powers can all fly. by the way, did you know that Gambit can run out of cards? Funny enough, Quicksilver is an Avenger in the comics. Iron Man 3 featured the Extremis soliders, who can easily melt the metal from Wolverine's bonees wipe the floor with anyone regenerating mutants, after all, they can burn wounds shut. Kitty wouldn;' be able to reach the Helicarriers, as she can't fly. Rogue would have to make physical contact with a hero to drain them. and continue draining over a period of time, which is difficult during a fight, hell, all credit to Cap, but he's not exactly the star player here. The stars will be any Avenger capable of flight, considering little to none of the X-men have that power. The Avengers can just bomb Charles School, ambush everyone fleeing it and have Hawkeye pick off each mutant with a bow, easily killing Magneto who would most likely try to begin by tearing down a helicarrier, only to receive an arrow to the throat. Don't forget the Tesseract, and the Aether, both of which the Avengers have control of. Hell, since Sony made a deal with Marvel which means spidey is now in the Marvel cinematic universe, that means both Peter and the Sinister Six will be in this fight. Oh and Spiderman brings me to my last point. Deadpool's not a mutant. Technically he's a mutie; mutants are born with their powers, Spiderman and Deadpool got their powers externally, and so the merc with a mouth wouldn't be joing that fight unless all he did was annoy Wolverine, which would only be a hindrance. See, the Avengers actually end up having to fight in a lot of the cosmic series of Marvel, so they can basically hold their own against anyone. the X-Men have much smaller stories and never fight anyone except normal humans or each other. They're not on the same level.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by lord_megatron 2 years ago
lord_megatron
shield was gone in cap america 3 you cannot call airstrikes or helicarriers.
Posted by lord_megatron 2 years ago
lord_megatron
this is one heated debate
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