The Instigator
questionmark
Pro (for)
Losing
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The Contender
leet4A1
Con (against)
Winning
14 Points

x-x/=0

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leet4A1
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/22/2009 Category: Science
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 11,174 times Debate No: 7941
Debate Rounds (3)
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questionmark

Pro

Ok, I'm going to set up a series of mathematical equations to prove that x-x does not equal 0 all the time. Some quick terminology: /= does not equal. 8 infinity. x variable. - minus. + plus. = equal to.
x-x=0 a number minus itself equals zero
x=8 x equals infinity
8-8=0 because a number minus itself is zero, 8-8 is 0 as well
8+5=8 because infinity cant get any bigger
8+3=8 because infinity cant get any bigger
8+5-8+3=8-8 because of the last two lines
8+5-8+3=8-8+5-3 either the commutative or the associative property of addition/subtraction
last line=0+2 0 from 8-8, 2 from 5-3
therefore, 8-8=2 sometimes at least, infinity can equal 2.
therefore x-x/=0 all the time
Don't accept this debate and tell me "infinity is just a concept, you cant do anything with it" because thats a load of crap.
Good luck to my opponent.
leet4A1

Con

Thanks to my opponent for starting this debate.

"Don't accept this debate and tell me "infinity is just a concept, you cant do anything with it" because thats a load of crap."

No, it's not a load of crap, your set of equations is a load of crap.

We can't use infinity like a real number, that's it, case closed. The very fact that you can say nonsense like '1+infinity = infinity' means that infinity is not a number.

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"Since infinity does not follow the rules laid down for numbers, it cannot be a number. Every time you use the symbol {infinity} in a formula where you would normally use a number, you have to interpret the formula differently." [1]
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This is why you appear to have proven that (x-x) does not have to equal 1, because you have broken the rules of mathematics.

For my opponent's future reference, (infinity - infinity) = indeterminate. [1]

Thanks.

[1] - http://en.wikibooks.org...
Debate Round No. 1
questionmark

Pro

questionmark forfeited this round.
leet4A1

Con

My opponent forfeited his second round, presumably because there really is no argument to make. My opponent's equations only 'work' because they break the laws of mathematics. Vote CON.
Debate Round No. 2
questionmark

Pro

I didn't reply because you used the wrong logic, therefore making it impossible to make my point. Vote for whoever you choose, I don't really care, nether of us won, my opponent made totally irrelevant arguments.
leet4A1

Con

"I didn't reply because you used the wrong logic, therefore making it impossible to make my point. Vote for whoever you choose, I don't really care, nether of us won, my opponent made totally irrelevant arguments."

I made no irrelevant or illogical arguments. My opponent laid out a set of equations which apparently proved that (x - x) doesn't always have to equal zero. My opponent's equations used infinity as though it were a real number, which is a basic mathematics fail. I provided links to show that my opponent's equations broke the laws of mathematics and were therefore invalid, and he failed to rebut. Vote CON.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by wjmelements 8 years ago
wjmelements
is *not* zero, sorry.
Posted by wjmelements 8 years ago
wjmelements
Infinity minus infinity is zero.
Posted by Maikuru 8 years ago
Maikuru
It's not very gentlemanly to give yourself 7 points for a debate you forfeited, especially when simply arguing the invalidity of your opponent's arguments could have very well warranted yourself a win.
Posted by leet4A1 8 years ago
leet4A1
Ha, point taken. Nobody needs that image.
Posted by Puck 8 years ago
Puck
Haha, do I really need that image? :P
Posted by leet4A1 8 years ago
leet4A1
Haha, of course. Wouldn't be too odd to get 40 degree days there hey? It certainly wasn't on the East Coast. A lot of balls stuck to leg action.
Posted by Puck 8 years ago
Puck
Apart from midsummer. :P
Posted by leet4A1 8 years ago
leet4A1
Nice. Beautiful place Perth, all of WA really.
Posted by Puck 8 years ago
Puck
Perth atm. Working for UWA and Murdoch.
Posted by leet4A1 8 years ago
leet4A1
"In the same boat as yourself, leet4A1. Residing in Australia has its limits. :P There's a forum thread (or more) for debate reviews."

Where in Australia you at dude? I spent a majority of my life in Queensland, Brisbane and the Gold Coast mainly.
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