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is real i have a phsd in matheatics and aslo inmanths.
You acannot porve me wrong becuase I show to Mr. Mount and he is math teacher he laughe at me which menas thatn ia m actually correct. mr mount is good teach he let us play soccert so he must be write, i was called genius thins yoear in 6th grade so i am reight how about that how can u evenr ebut my logacly ritien points
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Thank you pro. I will provide a reason that 1 + 1 = 2 in this round as well as refute your points.
In order to start defining 1+1=2, we need some basis of what we are talking about; we need some things that show us what addition means, what equalling means, etc.
The Peano Postulates
Peano was a mathematician that allows us to talk about math through his postulates (that are often called axioms now); it is important when defining new ways of ordering numbers to speak the same language, so he gave us the language to speak.
The smallest set N which satisfies the following postulates is indistinguishable from, and can be taken to be, the natural numbers:
Postulate 1. 1 is in N
Postulate 2. If x is in N, then it's successor (number after) x' is in N
Postulate 3. There is no x in N such that x' = 1
Postulate 4. If y in N isn't 1, then there is a x in N such that x' = y
Postulate 5. If x and y are in N and x' = y', then x = y.
Postulate 6. If S is a subset of N, 1 is in S, and the implication (x in S ==> x' in S) holds, then S = N
Further, Peano gave us some ways to more easily grasp the concept of addition.
Def: Let a and b be in N.
1. If b = 1, then define a + b = a' (using P1 and P2).
2. If b isn't 1, then let c' = b, with c in N (using P4), and define a + b = (a + c)'.
We can restate this as:
1. a + 1 = a', and
2. a + b' = (a + b)'
Just as a matter of notation, we write 1' = 2, 2' = 3, 3' = 4, etc.
Now, onto the actual proof of 1 + 1 = 2:
Let a = 1 and b = 1
a + b = a + a
a + a = a'
a' = 1'
1' = 2
Therefore, 1 + 1 = 2.
Now, let's examine my opponent's proof.
1+1=11 [This breaks Peano's postulates, it must be wrong]
11-0=101 [Not possible with P5 of Peano]
101=lol [Possible with some sorts of variables]
lol=lool [Therefore l^2 * o^2 = 101]
o+o=1 [1/2 = .5, therefore o=.5] [This means in the above answer, l must necessarily be around 10.4 due to rounding]
1+(0+0)+1=1+(pi)/(sin(8)) + f(00) [Or, 1+1 = 1+ pi/sin(8) [f(00) has no definition]. 1+1 = 1+~3.18 = ~4.18]
~4.18 = 1+1+1 [This isn't true; 1`` = 3 necessarily]
~4.18 = 3
So, we can see that there are multiple lines that are broken mathematically. My opponent's proof just doesn't hold up.
I'm being smart by saying postulates because that's the only way to prove something is so.
Hitler said that the Jews were inferior and he taught millions to believe this - does this mean that the fact remains uncountered and absolutely true? Maybe ... but just because Hitler said it does not mean it is true. Further, just because your math teacher said 1+1=3 does not necessarily mean it is.
aslo htter say jews ar iferer becuse it is not ture, becyuase his math teacher did not say that jews basd
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Vote Placed by Sarai.K82 12 months ago
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Reasons for voting decision: I am fairly simple, so I thought 1+1 = 2 before the debate. Pro's arguments did not persuade me otherwise. I might have called conduct tied, but for Pro's comment, " ... fooolinsh youn 3 yurold." Pro does not follow traditional English language spelling and grammar rules while Con does. Con's arguments were more persuasive to me. I didn't notice any citations to authority by Con and I don't know enough about Pro's math teacher to evaluate the reliability of that source, so I put that issue as tied.
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