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'you black negro" --why is that statement racist?

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Started: 12/19/2014 Category: People
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Racism is OK as long as ts levelled against somebody who truly comes with the radius of recievola?

As in, its ok to diss a bloke if the diss has enough substance to it.

E.g: Oi! You BLACK nobber, you.

Racist or not?

Yes, if the guy at the receiving end is WHITE thus rendering the insult false.

If the blokes black aleady, thennit makes no sensse to call his antagonist a racist for just commenting on something about him, brnging out to light a basic statement pertaining to his genetic makeup, i.e the colour of his skin is BLACK.


Hello Bill O'Reilly, pleasure.

There is a simple answer to that question: connotations. A statement can be an observation, but if it carries a negative connotation in society than it will be intrepreted as racist. For example, if I was to call a mentally handicapped person "retarded" (I would never do such a thing! :) ) it could be seen as an insult, even though it is a true statement. It is because the word "retarded" carries a negative connotation.

It's the same reason why we don't use the word "nigger" anymore, as it's something that is no longer socially acceptable.

So, in your example, "Oi! You BLACK nobber, you." This statement is inherently racist due to the fact you are, first of all, insulting someone based off of their race, and second of all, seemingly judging them off of their skin color.

Keep in mind, I absolutely agree that this statement is not racist: "you are black," however, additions have the possibility to make it seem racist. That's all I have to prove as the negative.

Definition of connotation:
"The associated or secondary meaning of a word or expression in addition to its explicit or primary meaning: A possible connotation of “home” is “a place of warmth, comfort, and affection.”

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Posted by Vajrasattva-LeRoy 1 year ago
No there isn't .
Words don't have & can't have connotations.
The idea that a word has negative connotations it's racist doesn't make sense.
"Racism" doesn't exist, anyway.
Posted by TheNamesFizzy 1 year ago
Sure there is. If a word has a negative connotation then it will be racist. Language is not constricted to it's definition; it never has been.
Posted by Vajrasattva-LeRoy 1 year ago
There's no way to add "connotations" to dictionary definitions.
There's no way to denote definitions as "good" or "bad",
"complimentary" or "insulting" , etc.
Nigger comes from negro, which means Black or Black skinned.
Such words aren't derogatory, insulting, demeaning, accusatory,
offensive, judgmental, etc.
The idea that it's better to say Black (Negro) instead of Negro (Black)
because people might be offended doesn't make any sense.
The idea that calling somebody Nigger Negro Black
is a terrible insult doesn't make sense.
Posted by TheNamesFizzy 1 year ago
Yeah, that's true as well. I didn't think of it that way.
Posted by Atmas 1 year ago
Not to mention its saying the same thing twice. Negro is a technical term referring to black people, so saying black negro is like saying black black person. It's accusatory, which makes it offensive, however saying, "The Negroid race" is not offensive, even if some might take it to be. Still, it's always better to just say black person, black people, or blacks, if their color has any relevance to the topic. Otherwise, just say person or people.
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