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9/29/2012 5:00:14 PM
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occured at the exact moment when this 2:25 was written
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9/29/2012 6:30:15 PM
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Greatest moment occurs at 0.50.
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9/29/2012 6:40:22 PM
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000ike, you need not to resort to hyperbole, especially when you disregard other movements or epitomes of musical euphony in placing Tchaikovsky at the helm.
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9/29/2012 6:47:11 PM
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Starting at 2:00. https://www.youtube.com...
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9/29/2012 6:57:14 PM
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A touching farewell that I'd like to nominate as one of the great moments in opera. Greatest moment there is at 3:35.
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9/29/2012 7:14:30 PM
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At 9/29/2012 6:57:14 PM, Man-is-good wrote:

A touching farewell that I'd like to nominate as one of the great moments in opera. Greatest moment there is at 3:35.

I see your Wagner and raise you Ubermensch.
https://www.youtube.com...
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9/29/2012 7:21:19 PM
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At 9/29/2012 7:14:30 PM, socialpinko wrote:
At 9/29/2012 6:57:14 PM, Man-is-good wrote:

A touching farewell that I'd like to nominate as one of the great moments in opera. Greatest moment there is at 3:35.

I see your Wagner and raise you Ubermensch.
https://www.youtube.com...

I see that Ubermensch and raise you Verdi. https://www.youtube.com...
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9/29/2012 7:55:06 PM
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At 9/29/2012 6:40:22 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
000ike, you need not to resort to hyperbole, especially when you disregard other movements or epitomes of musical euphony in placing Tchaikovsky at the helm.

actually, no, Dvorak is at the helm of all classical music.
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9/29/2012 7:56:22 PM
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At 9/29/2012 7:55:06 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 6:40:22 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
000ike, you need not to resort to hyperbole, especially when you disregard other movements or epitomes of musical euphony in placing Tchaikovsky at the helm.

actually, no, Dvorak is at the helm of all classical music.

tchaikovsky is second place. Liszt is third. Schubert is forth.....and all the way at the bottom would be Mahler and Bach.
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9/29/2012 8:23:13 PM
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At 9/29/2012 7:56:22 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 7:55:06 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 6:40:22 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
000ike, you need not to resort to hyperbole, especially when you disregard other movements or epitomes of musical euphony in placing Tchaikovsky at the helm.

actually, no, Dvorak is at the helm of all classical music.

tchaikovsky is second place. Liszt is third. Schubert is forth.....and all the way at the bottom would be Mahler and Bach.

Coughcoughnotastecough.
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9/29/2012 8:39:14 PM
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At 9/29/2012 8:23:13 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 9/29/2012 7:56:22 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 7:55:06 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 6:40:22 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
000ike, you need not to resort to hyperbole, especially when you disregard other movements or epitomes of musical euphony in placing Tchaikovsky at the helm.

actually, no, Dvorak is at the helm of all classical music.

tchaikovsky is second place. Liszt is third. Schubert is forth.....and all the way at the bottom would be Mahler and Bach.

Coughcoughnotastecough.

Romantic era is known for producing the most melodic and poignant pieces in music history. Yeah....I'm the one with no taste....right :P
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9/29/2012 8:44:01 PM
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At 9/29/2012 7:21:19 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 9/29/2012 7:14:30 PM, socialpinko wrote:
At 9/29/2012 6:57:14 PM, Man-is-good wrote:

A touching farewell that I'd like to nominate as one of the great moments in opera. Greatest moment there is at 3:35.

I see your Wagner and raise you Ubermensch.
https://www.youtube.com...

I see that Ubermensch and raise you Verdi. https://www.youtube.com...

Verdo quel Verbo e ti dai un Gounod: https://www.youtube.com...
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9/29/2012 8:45:05 PM
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At 9/29/2012 8:39:14 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 8:23:13 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 9/29/2012 7:56:22 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 7:55:06 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 6:40:22 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
000ike, you need not to resort to hyperbole, especially when you disregard other movements or epitomes of musical euphony in placing Tchaikovsky at the helm.

actually, no, Dvorak is at the helm of all classical music.

tchaikovsky is second place. Liszt is third. Schubert is forth.....and all the way at the bottom would be Mahler and Bach.

Coughcoughnotastecough.

Romantic era is known for producing the most melodic and poignant pieces in music history. Yeah....I'm the one with no taste....right :P

Personal preferences do not lend credence to such statements, ike.
"Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto." --Terence

"I believe that the mind can be permanently profaned by the habit of attending to trivial things, so that all our thoughts shall be tinged with triviality."--Thoreau
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9/29/2012 8:45:48 PM
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At 9/29/2012 8:44:01 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
At 9/29/2012 7:21:19 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 9/29/2012 7:14:30 PM, socialpinko wrote:
At 9/29/2012 6:57:14 PM, Man-is-good wrote:

A touching farewell that I'd like to nominate as one of the great moments in opera. Greatest moment there is at 3:35.

I see your Wagner and raise you Ubermensch.
https://www.youtube.com...

I see that Ubermensch and raise you Verdi. https://www.youtube.com...

Vedo quel Verdi e ti dai un Gounod: https://www.youtube.com...

Riparato.
"Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto." --Terence

"I believe that the mind can be permanently profaned by the habit of attending to trivial things, so that all our thoughts shall be tinged with triviality."--Thoreau
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9/29/2012 8:46:28 PM
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At 9/29/2012 8:44:01 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
At 9/29/2012 7:21:19 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 9/29/2012 7:14:30 PM, socialpinko wrote:
At 9/29/2012 6:57:14 PM, Man-is-good wrote:

A touching farewell that I'd like to nominate as one of the great moments in opera. Greatest moment there is at 3:35.

I see your Wagner and raise you Ubermensch.
https://www.youtube.com...

I see that Ubermensch and raise you Verdi. https://www.youtube.com...

Vedo quel Verdi e ti do un Gounod: https://www.youtube.com...

Riparato.
"Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto." --Terence

"I believe that the mind can be permanently profaned by the habit of attending to trivial things, so that all our thoughts shall be tinged with triviality."--Thoreau
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9/29/2012 8:48:39 PM
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Am I the only one on the site who doesn't listen to classical music? What's the attraction?
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9/29/2012 8:50:23 PM
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At 9/29/2012 8:39:14 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 8:23:13 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 9/29/2012 7:56:22 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 7:55:06 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 6:40:22 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
000ike, you need not to resort to hyperbole, especially when you disregard other movements or epitomes of musical euphony in placing Tchaikovsky at the helm.

actually, no, Dvorak is at the helm of all classical music.

tchaikovsky is second place. Liszt is third. Schubert is forth.....and all the way at the bottom would be Mahler and Bach.

Coughcoughnotastecough.

Romantic era is known for producing the most melodic and poignant pieces in music history. Yeah....I'm the one with no taste....right :P

So are you telling me then that there's an objective gradient to music?

I think Vampire Weekend, a modern band, has some of the most poignant and artistic music out there, even more so than MANY Romantic era composers. I feel it becomes especially poignant as their music transcends merely trying to evoke emotion, but to do it in a way that lends itself to social commentary.

One example out of many is the song I'm linking right now. As you'll tell, it's heavily autotuned. But listening to the lyrics, it all plays into a greater thematic statement about how we perceive genuineness in modern society. Also, I personally feel just listening to it is very evocative. Shivers.

https://www.youtube.com...

Basically, I'm more wondering why it is you feel it fair to objectively place the Romantics and "classical" music above modern?
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9/29/2012 8:57:17 PM
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At 9/29/2012 8:45:05 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
At 9/29/2012 8:39:14 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 8:23:13 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 9/29/2012 7:56:22 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 7:55:06 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 6:40:22 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
000ike, you need not to resort to hyperbole, especially when you disregard other movements or epitomes of musical euphony in placing Tchaikovsky at the helm.

actually, no, Dvorak is at the helm of all classical music.

tchaikovsky is second place. Liszt is third. Schubert is forth.....and all the way at the bottom would be Mahler and Bach.

Coughcoughnotastecough.

Romantic era is known for producing the most melodic and poignant pieces in music history. Yeah....I'm the one with no taste....right :P

Personal preferences do not lend credence to such statements, ike.

And might I tell you, as DN has implied, there is no gradient to set if there are only subjective reasons, identifications or affinities with some impulse or character of music; you should have distanced yourself and understand that harmony, melody, character, rhythm have come with various forms, and learned to undermine such a statement by acknowledging the limits of it, mainly as a product of your own preferences/ theories/ perspective, Ike. :C
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9/29/2012 8:58:26 PM
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At 9/29/2012 8:48:39 PM, socialpinko wrote:
Am I the only one on the site who doesn't listen to classical music? What's the attraction?

Have you listened to all types of classical music? You're bound to find something you like, and when you do, it's incredibly striking and profound. Also, the chords and overall structure of classical music is very sophisticated....unlike the formulaic, basic chord progressions that define ALL modern music. I mean, I could come up with stuff like that in my sleep.

The issue is that virtually all modern music is sung. However, lyrics are to pure melody as tv is to books. When you cloud music with words, you have no freedom to interpret the sound....it has already been interpreted for you.

I highly doubt you dislike all classical music, simply because classical music isn't a single genre, the music ranges from dark and abysmal (like Mahler) to overly happy and saccharine (like Mozart).
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9/29/2012 9:00:11 PM
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At 9/29/2012 8:58:26 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 8:48:39 PM, socialpinko wrote:
Am I the only one on the site who doesn't listen to classical music? What's the attraction?

Have you listened to all types of classical music? You're bound to find something you like, and when you do, it's incredibly striking and profound. Also, the chords and overall structure of classical music is very sophisticated....unlike the formulaic, basic chord progressions that define ALL modern music. I mean, I could come up with stuff like that in my sleep.

The issue is that virtually all modern music is sung. However, lyrics are to pure melody as tv is to books. When you cloud music with words, you have no freedom to interpret the sound....it has already been interpreted for you.

I highly doubt you dislike all classical music, simply because classical music isn't a single genre, the music ranges from dark and abysmal (like Mahler) to overly happy and saccharine (like Mozart).

Totally untrue.
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9/29/2012 9:04:16 PM
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At 9/29/2012 8:50:23 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 9/29/2012 8:39:14 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 8:23:13 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 9/29/2012 7:56:22 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 7:55:06 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 6:40:22 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
000ike, you need not to resort to hyperbole, especially when you disregard other movements or epitomes of musical euphony in placing Tchaikovsky at the helm.

actually, no, Dvorak is at the helm of all classical music.

tchaikovsky is second place. Liszt is third. Schubert is forth.....and all the way at the bottom would be Mahler and Bach.

Coughcoughnotastecough.

Romantic era is known for producing the most melodic and poignant pieces in music history. Yeah....I'm the one with no taste....right :P

So are you telling me then that there's an objective gradient to music?

I think Vampire Weekend, a modern band, has some of the most poignant and artistic music out there, even more so than MANY Romantic era composers. I feel it becomes especially poignant as their music transcends merely trying to evoke emotion, but to do it in a way that lends itself to social commentary.

One example out of many is the song I'm linking right now. As you'll tell, it's heavily autotuned. But listening to the lyrics, it all plays into a greater thematic statement about how we perceive genuineness in modern society. Also, I personally feel just listening to it is very evocative. Shivers.

https://www.youtube.com...

Basically, I'm more wondering why it is you feel it fair to objectively place the Romantics and "classical" music above modern?

No, I don't think it's objective, it's just my opinion. Though do you LEGIT not find anything powerful about the section from Tchaikovsky's piano concerto in the OP?
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9/29/2012 9:05:57 PM
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At 9/29/2012 9:04:16 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 8:50:23 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 9/29/2012 8:39:14 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 8:23:13 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 9/29/2012 7:56:22 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 7:55:06 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 6:40:22 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
000ike, you need not to resort to hyperbole, especially when you disregard other movements or epitomes of musical euphony in placing Tchaikovsky at the helm.

actually, no, Dvorak is at the helm of all classical music.

tchaikovsky is second place. Liszt is third. Schubert is forth.....and all the way at the bottom would be Mahler and Bach.

Coughcoughnotastecough.

Romantic era is known for producing the most melodic and poignant pieces in music history. Yeah....I'm the one with no taste....right :P

So are you telling me then that there's an objective gradient to music?

I think Vampire Weekend, a modern band, has some of the most poignant and artistic music out there, even more so than MANY Romantic era composers. I feel it becomes especially poignant as their music transcends merely trying to evoke emotion, but to do it in a way that lends itself to social commentary.

One example out of many is the song I'm linking right now. As you'll tell, it's heavily autotuned. But listening to the lyrics, it all plays into a greater thematic statement about how we perceive genuineness in modern society. Also, I personally feel just listening to it is very evocative. Shivers.

https://www.youtube.com...

Basically, I'm more wondering why it is you feel it fair to objectively place the Romantics and "classical" music above modern?

No, I don't think it's objective, it's just my opinion. Though do you LEGIT not find anything powerful about the section from Tchaikovsky's piano concerto in the OP?

Eh. It just, for me, doesn't do much. Aside from his more famous movements/passages (like the ever famous 1812 Overture), I don't really care much for his stuff.
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9/29/2012 9:06:10 PM
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Ike, I imagine this is a viewpoint you wouldn't want to consider, but eh...

One of my friends, a senior, once gave his opinion on classical music. He stated, to be brief, that it was actually the sheer deterioration, giving way to sheer emphasis on beauty of the monomer of beauty, rather than the overarching structure, the theme, the entire technical aspect.

In his own words...." To me, ~1000AD - 1750AD is the Golden Age of Music and 1750AD - 1900AD is the Rusting Age. Classical (with a capital "C") is the beginning of deterioration of music in my opinion. Polyphony had lost its appeal to most and homophony took over. Romantic Music only resumed the deterioration, focusing more on making a single line of music beautiful and sacrificing complexity."
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9/29/2012 9:06:20 PM
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At 9/29/2012 8:58:26 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 8:48:39 PM, socialpinko wrote:
Am I the only one on the site who doesn't listen to classical music? What's the attraction?

Have you listened to all types of classical music? You're bound to find something you like, and when you do, it's incredibly striking and profound. Also, the chords and overall structure of classical music is very sophisticated....unlike the formulaic, basic chord progressions that define ALL modern music. I mean, I could come up with stuff like that in my sleep.

Who would you recommend in that sense?

The issue is that virtually all modern music is sung. However, lyrics are to pure melody as tv is to books. When you cloud music with words, you have no freedom to interpret the sound....it has already been interpreted for you.

I definitely understand this sentiment.

I highly doubt you dislike all classical music, simply because classical music isn't a single genre, the music ranges from dark and abysmal (like Mahler) to overly happy and saccharine (like Mozart).

Well the only reason I can say that is because I generally haven't listened to classical music, save three Nietzsche videos and the Wagner one MiG posted earlier.
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9/29/2012 9:08:58 PM
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At 9/29/2012 9:00:11 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 9/29/2012 8:58:26 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 8:48:39 PM, socialpinko wrote:
Am I the only one on the site who doesn't listen to classical music? What's the attraction?

Have you listened to all types of classical music? You're bound to find something you like, and when you do, it's incredibly striking and profound. Also, the chords and overall structure of classical music is very sophisticated....unlike the formulaic, basic chord progressions that define ALL modern music. I mean, I could come up with stuff like that in my sleep.

The issue is that virtually all modern music is sung. However, lyrics are to pure melody as tv is to books. When you cloud music with words, you have no freedom to interpret the sound....it has already been interpreted for you.

I highly doubt you dislike all classical music, simply because classical music isn't a single genre, the music ranges from dark and abysmal (like Mahler) to overly happy and saccharine (like Mozart).

Totally untrue.

What you're interpreting is the meaning of the words provided for you, not the meaning of the music. The depth of the music becomes dependent on the depth of the message....imagine affixing meaningless lyrics to Beethoven's 9th....yeah...not quite the same is it?
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9/29/2012 9:11:23 PM
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At 9/29/2012 9:06:20 PM, socialpinko wrote:

Who would you recommend in that sense?

What type of modern music do you listen to?
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9/29/2012 9:13:27 PM
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At 9/29/2012 9:06:10 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
Ike, I imagine this is a viewpoint you wouldn't want to consider, but eh...

One of my friends, a senior, once gave his opinion on classical music. He stated, to be brief, that it was actually the sheer deterioration, giving way to sheer emphasis on beauty of the monomer of beauty, rather than the overarching structure, the theme, the entire technical aspect.

In his own words...." To me, ~1000AD - 1750AD is the Golden Age of Music and 1750AD - 1900AD is the Rusting Age. Classical (with a capital "C") is the beginning of deterioration of music in my opinion. Polyphony had lost its appeal to most and homophony took over. Romantic Music only resumed the deterioration, focusing more on making a single line of music beautiful and sacrificing complexity."
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9/29/2012 9:13:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/29/2012 9:11:23 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 9:06:20 PM, socialpinko wrote:

Who would you recommend in that sense?

What type of modern music do you listen to?

Nothing modern in the sense of coming out more than ten or fifteen years ago but if you mean modern as non-classical my loves are Tupac and the Doors as the top two.
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9/29/2012 9:14:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/29/2012 8:58:26 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/29/2012 8:48:39 PM, socialpinko wrote:
Am I the only one on the site who doesn't listen to classical music? What's the attraction?

Have you listened to all types of classical music? You're bound to find something you like, and when you do, it's incredibly striking and profound. Also, the chords and overall structure of classical music is very sophisticated....unlike the formulaic, basic chord progressions that define ALL modern music. I mean, I could come up with stuff like that in my sleep.

The issue is that virtually all modern music is sung. However, lyrics are to pure melody as tv is to books. When you cloud music with words, you have no freedom to interpret the sound....it has already been interpreted for you.

I highly doubt you dislike all classical music, simply because classical music isn't a single genre, the music ranges from dark and abysmal (like Mahler) to overly happy and saccharine (like Mozart).

Dude.....its not some alien technology that appeals to everyone. Some people just n't share yur tastes.

And, to the song, its ok, but....meh. I like Halo music better. Has more of a not-something-I-would-use-to-make-me-go-to-sleep-feel.

I mean, how can you say no to these?
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