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I-am-a-panda
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10/21/2009 12:23:40 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
I've been looking for some good books to read, something along the lines of Animal Farm (The genre and style of book, not the ideology)
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10/21/2009 1:34:36 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/21/2009 1:28:18 PM, mongeese wrote:
1984? That's what I'm reading now.

Cool.
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10/21/2009 1:45:40 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/21/2009 1:37:07 PM, theitalianstallion wrote:
The House of the Scorpion is sorta along those lines.

Meh, not really. Sure, the issue of Cloning, but not about political ideologies.

1) Animal Farm
2) 1984
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10/21/2009 2:05:45 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/21/2009 1:48:01 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
I like A Clockwork Orange, maybe Fahrenheit 451, though I'm sure you've read those already.

lol, I was expecting Mein Kampf.
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10/21/2009 2:14:08 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Any of these books:

http://en.wikipedia.org...

They're all in the same genre.
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10/21/2009 4:17:12 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/21/2009 1:48:01 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
I like A Clockwork Orange,

That's probably the best book in the world ever but Kleptin's list is hot too.

I reckon you'd like J.G. Ballard Panda.
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10/21/2009 4:21:00 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/21/2009 4:17:12 PM, feverish wrote:
At 10/21/2009 1:48:01 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
I like A Clockwork Orange,

That's probably the best book in the world ever but Kleptin's list is hot too.

I reckon you'd like J.G. Ballard Panda.

I actually tried to read A Clockwork Orange before I'd seen the picture, when I was about 13. I didn't know what the f*ck was going on haha, I couldn't understand the language. Then I saw the film 900 times, and have since gone back to read the book, which f*cking pwns.

J.G. Ballard is a bit strange for mine... then again, I've only read The Atrocity Exhibition, and again I was quite young. I couldn't make much sense of it at all.
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10/21/2009 5:09:46 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/21/2009 12:23:40 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
I've been looking for some good books to read, something along the lines of Animal Farm (The genre and style of book, not the ideology)

The genre as in dystopian novels? Or parables that involve animals? You probably mean the former.

Some good ones have been listed here. I guess you could try Ayn Rand, if your just looking for books of that genre. Anthem is a short read. Atlas shrugged seems to be an extremely long read (haven't read it, actually).
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10/21/2009 5:12:53 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
You can skip the 50 pages of John Galt's speech and it'll be a nice read XD
: At 5/2/2010 2:43:54 PM, innomen wrote:
It isn't about finding a theory, philosophy or doctrine and thinking it's the answer, but a practical application of one's experiences that is the answer.

: At 10/28/2010 2:40:07 PM, jharry wrote: I have already been given the greatest Gift that anyone could ever hope for [Life], I would consider myself selfish if I expected anything more.
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10/21/2009 5:28:03 PM
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You don't wanna skip the full 50 pages. Just 48 or so. The speech has redundant elements, but even so they should be heard once.
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10/21/2009 5:30:50 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/21/2009 5:28:03 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
You don't wanna skip the full 50 pages. Just 48 or so. The speech has redundant elements, but even so they should be heard once.

That's definitely a book I wanna read, but I just don't know if my attention-span could hold out for the entirety. Is it worth the read?
"Let me tell you the truth. The truth is, 'what is'. And 'what should be' is a fantasy, a terrible terrible lie that someone gave to the people long ago. The 'what should be' never did exist, but people keep trying to live up to it. There is no 'what should be,' there is only what is." - Lenny Bruce

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"And Genisis 1 does match modern science... you just have to try really hard." - GR33K FR33K5
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10/21/2009 5:46:43 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/21/2009 5:30:50 PM, leet4A1 wrote:
At 10/21/2009 5:28:03 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
You don't wanna skip the full 50 pages. Just 48 or so. The speech has redundant elements, but even so they should be heard once.

That's definitely a book I wanna read, but I just don't know if my attention-span could hold out for the entirety. Is it worth the read?

I don't know if it's your style. I mean, there's a story, but it's more about an expression of politics through characters rather than satisfying a bunch of literary elements. It'd be interesting for Panda - a former socialist turned liberal - to read Ayn Rand. I'd be curious to see what specifically he agrees with and doesn't agree with. My biggest problem with Ayn Rand critics (wifey hates this as well) is that people who don't even read her try to argue her or criticize her politics (namely by completely misconstruing what she says or where she stands). I think Panda would like Brave New World though. I've been reading a lot more Huxley lately and I LOVE him; I think he's a really great author.
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10/21/2009 6:11:51 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/21/2009 5:46:43 PM, theLwerd wrote:
At 10/21/2009 5:30:50 PM, leet4A1 wrote:
At 10/21/2009 5:28:03 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
You don't wanna skip the full 50 pages. Just 48 or so. The speech has redundant elements, but even so they should be heard once.

That's definitely a book I wanna read, but I just don't know if my attention-span could hold out for the entirety. Is it worth the read?

I don't know if it's your style.

What's that supposed to mean? :D

I've been reading a lot more Huxley lately and I LOVE him; I think he's a really great author.

Yeah, he's great. I'm sure you've read Doors of Perception? F*cking good to see such an erudite man intellectualize about tripping.
"Let me tell you the truth. The truth is, 'what is'. And 'what should be' is a fantasy, a terrible terrible lie that someone gave to the people long ago. The 'what should be' never did exist, but people keep trying to live up to it. There is no 'what should be,' there is only what is." - Lenny Bruce

"Satan goes to church, did you know that?" - Godsands

"And Genisis 1 does match modern science... you just have to try really hard." - GR33K FR33K5
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10/21/2009 6:27:53 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/21/2009 5:24:26 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
I also like Heart of Darkness.

I'm not sure that matches the genre being discussed here. In any case, what about that book appealed to you? It happens to top my worst books list =P
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10/21/2009 6:28:38 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
haha didn't see the criteria but Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand is amazing and so is the graphic novel V for Vendetta! I recommend both highly.
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10/21/2009 6:29:26 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/21/2009 6:27:53 PM, Maikuru wrote:
At 10/21/2009 5:24:26 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
I also like Heart of Darkness.

I'm not sure that matches the genre being discussed here. In any case, what about that book appealed to you? It happens to top my worst books list =P

The heart of darkness fits the genre. Unless, I am mistaken the genre is a negative utopia view.
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10/21/2009 8:29:23 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/21/2009 6:29:26 PM, wonderwoman wrote:
The heart of darkness fits the genre. Unless, I am mistaken the genre is a negative utopia view.

The Africa depicted is certainly very negative, but I'm still not sure this genre applies to the novel as a whole. The story is structured around a comparison between two distinct civilizations, not simply the faults of one. Also, I'm not sure I've ever heard of this genre involving anything other than governmental or religious oppression. The protagonist's distaste for Africans and their culture doesn't necessarily make the setting a dystopia.

This could all be irrelevant to how genres are determined, though. I don't really know =D
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10/30/2009 12:46:30 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
I think Panda should hold off on reading Ayn Rand for a bit. I stick by "Brave New World" for you though. I think you'll enjoy it, and Huxley rocks.
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11/19/2009 2:01:15 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Read "Flatland" by Edwin A. Abbot.

http://en.wikipedia.org...

Is don, is good.
"Let me tell you the truth. The truth is, 'what is'. And 'what should be' is a fantasy, a terrible terrible lie that someone gave to the people long ago. The 'what should be' never did exist, but people keep trying to live up to it. There is no 'what should be,' there is only what is." - Lenny Bruce

"Satan goes to church, did you know that?" - Godsands

"And Genisis 1 does match modern science... you just have to try really hard." - GR33K FR33K5
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11/19/2009 4:23:05 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
I know you made a joke about this, but it is truly a great read.
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11/19/2009 4:25:43 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
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There are three types of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics"
-Mark Twain

"If at first you don't succeed, redefine success"

"Therefore love moderately. Long love doth so.
Too swift arrives as tardy as too slow."
- William Shakespeare

"There must be no majority decisions, but only responsible persons, and the word 'council' must be restored to its original meaning. Surely every man will have advisers by his side, but the decision will be made by one man."
- Adolf Hitler
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1/2/2010 1:26:28 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
you should try naked lunch.
it will be hard to read if you cant get over the gruesome thoughts he writes though>
but i thought it was pretty good :)
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1/4/2010 4:55:59 AM
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At 1/2/2010 1:26:28 PM, bambiii wrote:
you should try naked lunch.
it will be hard to read if you cant get over the gruesome thoughts he writes though>
but i thought it was pretty good :)

Yeh Burroughs is awesome once you get past all the gay rape hanging rituals.