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3/10/2013 4:33:52 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I don't know your opinion but I like it very mush. His chamber music and piano is so lovely, I feel like I want to share.

Honestly, it take me almost decade to comprehend his musical massage (I have never been classically trained) but it is so rewarding! I am delight to know that such wonderful music did exist.
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3/10/2013 4:45:02 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/10/2013 4:33:52 AM, suttichart.denpruektham wrote:
I don't know your opinion but I like it very mush. His chamber music and piano is so lovely, I feel like I want to share.



Honestly, it take me almost decade to comprehend his musical massage (I have never been classically trained) but it is so rewarding! I am delight to know that such wonderful music did exist.

I'm not as familiar with his work as I am with others, but I particularly love this piece.
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3/10/2013 7:04:22 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/10/2013 4:45:02 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 3/10/2013 4:33:52 AM, suttichart.denpruektham wrote:
I don't know your opinion but I like it very mush. His chamber music and piano is so lovely, I feel like I want to share.



Honestly, it take me almost decade to comprehend his musical massage (I have never been classically trained) but it is so rewarding! I am delight to know that such wonderful music did exist.

I'm not as familiar with his work as I am with others, but I particularly love this piece.



sure is lovely (and well know), I actually thought that his chamber and piano work (such as one you're showing) is better off than his symphonic work.

I don't know, I think the melody become more solid when it is played with fewer instrument (the orchestra make his complex note even more confusing), you think so?
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3/10/2013 7:36:43 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/10/2013 7:04:22 AM, suttichart.denpruektham wrote:
At 3/10/2013 4:45:02 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 3/10/2013 4:33:52 AM, suttichart.denpruektham wrote:
I don't know your opinion but I like it very mush. His chamber music and piano is so lovely, I feel like I want to share.



Honestly, it take me almost decade to comprehend his musical massage (I have never been classically trained) but it is so rewarding! I am delight to know that such wonderful music did exist.

I'm not as familiar with his work as I am with others, but I particularly love this piece.


sure is lovely (and well know), I actually thought that his chamber and piano work (such as one you're showing) is better off than his symphonic work.

I don't know, I think the melody become more solid when it is played with fewer instrument (the orchestra make his complex note even more confusing), you think so?

Now that you mention it, I do like Schubert's work best when it isn't complicated; I especially like some of his simpler waltzes. Some people can do big brilliantly, while others shine when they compose for smaller ensembles. Some (Rachmaninoff, for example) are brilliant at both.
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3/10/2013 9:48:17 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/10/2013 7:36:43 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 3/10/2013 7:04:22 AM, suttichart.denpruektham wrote:
At 3/10/2013 4:45:02 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 3/10/2013 4:33:52 AM, suttichart.denpruektham wrote:
I don't know your opinion but I like it very mush. His chamber music and piano is so lovely, I feel like I want to share.



Honestly, it take me almost decade to comprehend his musical massage (I have never been classically trained) but it is so rewarding! I am delight to know that such wonderful music did exist.

I'm not as familiar with his work as I am with others, but I particularly love this piece.


sure is lovely (and well know), I actually thought that his chamber and piano work (such as one you're showing) is better off than his symphonic work.

I don't know, I think the melody become more solid when it is played with fewer instrument (the orchestra make his complex note even more confusing), you think so?

Now that you mention it, I do like Schubert's work best when it isn't complicated; I especially like some of his simpler waltzes. Some people can do big brilliantly, while others shine when they compose for smaller ensembles. Some (Rachmaninoff, for example) are brilliant at both.

So true, I really enjoy big orchestral piece of composer like Beethoven or Berlioz (with volume turn on). But Rachmaninoff (or even Tchaikovsky), is.. ...now I am lost at word. Let say it is like listen to a speech from a mute, they seem to have some massage to deliver but for some reason they not stated it out.

Speaking of which, you may like to try this one out, it is piano transcription of Beethoven symphony no.9 from Franz Liszt. I thought it is the best piano interpretation of Beethoven work ever. It is detailed and refined just like the whole symphony being put in to the piano chord.

if you like the rest of the piece is on the link in that video.
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3/10/2013 10:16:11 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I've never played piano, but that must be incredibly difficult. It always amazes me that there are people in this world who can pull that off.

Rachmaninoff, I find, tends to mix messages in his work. This is one of my favorites, and it's a prime example. It's so beautiful in a bittersweet way:
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3/10/2013 11:25:47 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Judging from your preference, I guess when it come to classical music, you would prefer a baroque style over the rest do you?
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3/10/2013 12:52:14 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/10/2013 11:25:47 AM, suttichart.denpruektham wrote:
Judging from your preference, I guess when it come to classical music, you would prefer a baroque style over the rest do you?

Actually, I'm a die-hard Romantic fan, especially Russian Romantic.
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3/12/2013 3:22:38 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
It just that you seem to like music that is less complicated and have a colorful melody so I thought you will like something like Vivaldi, Lully, or Bocherini.
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3/12/2013 3:46:07 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/12/2013 3:22:38 AM, suttichart.denpruektham wrote:
It just that you seem to like music that is less complicated and have a colorful melody so I thought you will like something like Vivaldi, Lully, or Bocherini.

I do LOVE Vivaldi. I like pieces from all eras, really. It's just that my absolute favorites are Rachmaninoff, Dvorak, Respighi, Tchaikovsky, Prokofiev, Debussy, Wagner, Vaughn Williams and Grieg.

My favorite Vivaldi pieces are from, cliche as it is, the Four Seasons:
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3/12/2013 3:50:58 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
if you like schubert, you might like this
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3/12/2013 3:58:29 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I havent heard much Schubert, but I'll check em out since you guys seem to love him so much.
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3/13/2013 11:57:29 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/12/2013 3:58:29 PM, Lizard wrote:
I havent heard much Schubert, but I'll check em out since you guys seem to love him so much.

If you are new to his style of work, I recommend that you start with Skepsikyma's example or something. It has every charming elements you can expect from his work and not so difficult to listen.

Schubert typical work (such as one I posted) is very complex, extremely long (some music take almost an hour), and have so many melodies that could make you feel crazy for a long while (years in my case).

But if you have time, playing his music while reading something or doing some simple work (something that take time), and it can be very lovely.
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3/13/2013 5:03:50 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/12/2013 3:50:58 PM, 000ike wrote:
if you like schubert, you might like this

GoldieG89 is definitely my favorite Youtube subscription of all time. Without him I probably never would have discovered Kurt Atterberg.
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3/14/2013 5:18:59 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
never listen to this piece before (I am not usually touch anything that went passed 19th century)

It quite nice though.
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3/14/2013 11:05:44 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/12/2013 3:50:58 PM, 000ike wrote:
if you like schubert, you might like this

sure did, in fact, I watched this exact video several times, love how they paired the music with that paint.
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3/14/2013 5:19:39 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Are you very familiar with Dvorak, Debussy, and Delius?
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3/15/2013 1:15:43 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Dvorak and Debussy, never heard of the other guy, is he a British?

Dvorak sure is lovely, I like his pastoral style of his musical work. I also appreciate a few piece of Debussy, though generally I don't like impressionism that mush.

In general I usually favour a music from classical or baroque period, I don't like excessive expression of emotion and the music in this period suite my style well, I also like the act that it is simple and beautiful (not the baroque of course).

I also appreciate music from all era, just the one I like is often concentrated on this two.
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3/15/2013 9:28:21 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Humorosque would be always be my favourite for Dvorak. Symphony no.9 is a must, but I would prefer the less well know no.4, the flute is simply beautiful.
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3/15/2013 4:01:09 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 9:28:21 AM, suttichart.denpruektham wrote:
Humorosque would be always be my favourite for Dvorak. Symphony no.9 is a must, but I would prefer the less well know no.4, the flute is simply beautiful.

Delius was British. And symphony no. 9 is amazing, as is no. 4. Just out of curiosity, are you a fan of Mozart's Requiem or Dvorak's New World Symphony?
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3/15/2013 4:02:49 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
And saying that you loved simple music instantly made me think of Yann Tiersen:
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3/16/2013 3:18:29 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Nah, not simple in this sense, though I appreciate the piece, it's lovely.

Simplicity that I talk about is more like limited expression of emotion, and focus mostly on the beauty of music itself. It is hard to describe in word but try to think of something like David Statue, he doesn't dress with anything, yet the beauty of the piece is expressed through simple magnificent of human body.

Music in this category will be something like Mozart, Haydn, Boieldieu or something along the line. It is an evolution from the extravagant baroque music, the classical era is harmonious, refined and show nothing but the beauty of music. It's remind me of a pure white marble with a very silky, cold surface, beautiful and nothing more.
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3/18/2013 5:30:00 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Baroque is also lovely, you know if you like Vivaldi and something Romantic you should watch the movie "Le Roi Dance", it's french but I am sure you will love it. It is baroque-related but very passionate plot.