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12/2/2010 8:29:28 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I have a deep appreciation for the human body. The more you study it the more incredible it seems. Its limits always pushed back another inch. I marvel at the human body, especially naked, with all its definition. when does naked body cross over from appreciation or art to erotica or any other form media.
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12/2/2010 8:31:58 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/2/2010 8:29:28 PM, fatdan33 wrote:
I have a deep appreciation for the human body. The more you study it the more incredible it seems. Its limits always pushed back another inch. I marvel at the human body, especially naked, with all its definition. when does naked body cross over from appreciation or art to erotica or any other form media.

It becomes "erotica" when you start jacking off to it.
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12/2/2010 8:40:47 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/2/2010 8:31:58 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 12/2/2010 8:29:28 PM, fatdan33 wrote:
I have a deep appreciation for the human body. The more you study it the more incredible it seems. Its limits always pushed back another inch. I marvel at the human body, especially naked, with all its definition. when does naked body cross over from appreciation or art to erotica or any other form media.

It becomes "erotica" when you start jacking off to it.

This.
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12/2/2010 8:44:26 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/2/2010 8:31:58 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 12/2/2010 8:29:28 PM, fatdan33 wrote:
I have a deep appreciation for the human body. The more you study it the more incredible it seems. Its limits always pushed back another inch. I marvel at the human body, especially naked, with all its definition. when does naked body cross over from appreciation or art to erotica or any other form media.

It becomes "erotica" when you start jacking off to it.

LOL
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12/2/2010 8:45:58 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/2/2010 8:29:28 PM, fatdan33 wrote:
I have a deep appreciation for the human body. The more you study it the more incredible it seems. Its limits always pushed back another inch. I marvel at the human body, especially naked, with all its definition. when does naked body cross over from appreciation or art to erotica or any other form media.

I agree. I actually appreciate it more often in being artistic than erotic.

I suppose it becomes erotica when the purpose it serves you is primarily for arousal.
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12/2/2010 9:08:31 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/2/2010 8:31:58 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 12/2/2010 8:29:28 PM, fatdan33 wrote:
I have a deep appreciation for the human body. The more you study it the more incredible it seems. Its limits always pushed back another inch. I marvel at the human body, especially naked, with all its definition. when does naked body cross over from appreciation or art to erotica or any other form media.

It becomes "erotica" when you start jacking off to it.

Lol, you stole my comment! This is so exactly what I was going to say to the OP. Thief!
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12/2/2010 9:55:07 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/2/2010 8:31:58 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 12/2/2010 8:29:28 PM, fatdan33 wrote:
I have a deep appreciation for the human body. The more you study it the more incredible it seems. Its limits always pushed back another inch. I marvel at the human body, especially naked, with all its definition. when does naked body cross over from appreciation or art to erotica or any other form media.

It becomes "erotica" when you start jacking off to it.

Win.
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12/2/2010 10:00:51 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Fvck art the naked female body can only be fully appreciated in one way
Why kill people who kill people to show that killing people is wrong?
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12/2/2010 10:01:10 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/2/2010 8:45:58 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 12/2/2010 8:29:28 PM, fatdan33 wrote:
I have a deep appreciation for the human body. The more you study it the more incredible it seems. Its limits always pushed back another inch. I marvel at the human body, especially naked, with all its definition. when does naked body cross over from appreciation or art to erotica or any other form media.

I agree. I actually appreciate it more often in being artistic than erotic.

I suppose it becomes erotica when the purpose it serves you is primarily for arousal.

lol.
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12/2/2010 10:02:33 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/2/2010 10:00:51 PM, alex_hanson911 wrote:
Fvck art the naked female body can only be fully appreciated in one way

Yeesh.
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12/2/2010 10:03:28 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/2/2010 10:00:51 PM, alex_hanson911 wrote:
Fvck art the naked female body can only be fully appreciated in one way

If you use your imagination, there are countless ways to appreciate the female body.
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12/2/2010 10:06:59 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/2/2010 10:03:28 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:00:51 PM, alex_hanson911 wrote:
Fvck art the naked female body can only be fully appreciated in one way

If you use your imagination, there are countless ways to appreciate the female body.

As a delicious entree?
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12/2/2010 10:09:59 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/2/2010 10:06:59 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:03:28 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:00:51 PM, alex_hanson911 wrote:
Fvck art the naked female body can only be fully appreciated in one way

If you use your imagination, there are countless ways to appreciate the female body.

As a delicious entree?

Nah, most women are too bitter. ;)
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12/2/2010 10:12:40 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/2/2010 10:09:59 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:06:59 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:03:28 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:00:51 PM, alex_hanson911 wrote:
Fvck art the naked female body can only be fully appreciated in one way

If you use your imagination, there are countless ways to appreciate the female body.

As a delicious entree?

Nah, most women are too bitter. ;)

lol, whatever happened to "sugar and spice and everything nice - that's what girls are made of"
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12/2/2010 10:19:13 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/2/2010 10:12:40 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:09:59 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:06:59 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:03:28 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:00:51 PM, alex_hanson911 wrote:
Fvck art the naked female body can only be fully appreciated in one way

If you use your imagination, there are countless ways to appreciate the female body.

As a delicious entree?

Nah, most women are too bitter. ;)

lol, whatever happened to "sugar and spice and everything nice - that's what girls are made of"

Well, according to Mother Goose, "rings and jings and other fine things - that's what young women are made of". xD
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12/2/2010 10:26:42 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/2/2010 10:19:13 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:12:40 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:09:59 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:06:59 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:03:28 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:00:51 PM, alex_hanson911 wrote:
Fvck art the naked female body can only be fully appreciated in one way

If you use your imagination, there are countless ways to appreciate the female body.

As a delicious entree?

Nah, most women are too bitter. ;)

lol, whatever happened to "sugar and spice and everything nice - that's what girls are made of"

Well, according to Mother Goose, "rings and jings and other fine things - that's what young women are made of". xD

wow, they're already giving up some "sugar" for "rings and other fine things" at such a young age. tsk tsk
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12/2/2010 10:37:56 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/2/2010 10:26:42 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:19:13 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:12:40 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:09:59 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:06:59 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:03:28 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:00:51 PM, alex_hanson911 wrote:
Fvck art the naked female body can only be fully appreciated in one way

If you use your imagination, there are countless ways to appreciate the female body.

As a delicious entree?

Nah, most women are too bitter. ;)

lol, whatever happened to "sugar and spice and everything nice - that's what girls are made of"

Well, according to Mother Goose, "rings and jings and other fine things - that's what young women are made of". xD

wow, they're already giving up some "sugar" for "rings and other fine things" at such a young age. tsk tsk

Well, you have to give out the "sugar" before it turns to dust. Who wants to be an old spinster? In the end, most will become cougars. lol
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12/2/2010 10:50:58 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/2/2010 10:37:56 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:26:42 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:19:13 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:12:40 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:09:59 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:06:59 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:03:28 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 12/2/2010 10:00:51 PM, alex_hanson911 wrote:
Fvck art the naked female body can only be fully appreciated in one way

If you use your imagination, there are countless ways to appreciate the female body.

As a delicious entree?

Nah, most women are too bitter. ;)

lol, whatever happened to "sugar and spice and everything nice - that's what girls are made of"

Well, according to Mother Goose, "rings and jings and other fine things - that's what young women are made of". xD

wow, they're already giving up some "sugar" for "rings and other fine things" at such a young age. tsk tsk

Well, you have to give out the "sugar" before it turns to dust. Who wants to be an old spinster? In the end, most will become cougars. lol

"money and honey and a really loose cunny - that's what cougars are made of"
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
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12/3/2010 7:43:18 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/2/2010 8:29:28 PM, fatdan33 wrote:
I have a deep appreciation for the human body. The more you study it the more incredible it seems. Its limits always pushed back another inch. I marvel at the human body, especially naked, with all its definition. when does naked body cross over from appreciation or art to erotica or any other form media.

When you feel it in your body as well as see it with the Mind. The Mind is by far more beautiful when free from negative creations.
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12/4/2010 6:43:03 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/3/2010 7:43:18 AM, Ogan wrote:
At 12/2/2010 8:29:28 PM, fatdan33 wrote:
I have a deep appreciation for the human body. The more you study it the more incredible it seems. Its limits always pushed back another inch. I marvel at the human body, especially naked, with all its definition. when does naked body cross over from appreciation or art to erotica or any other form media.

When you feel it in your body as well as see it with the Mind. The Mind is by far more beautiful when free from negative creations.

don't we strive to have our mind and body as one. So what one sees the other feels and vice verse.
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12/4/2010 6:46:53 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/2/2010 8:45:58 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 12/2/2010 8:29:28 PM, fatdan33 wrote:
I have a deep appreciation for the human body. The more you study it the more incredible it seems. Its limits always pushed back another inch. I marvel at the human body, especially naked, with all its definition. when does naked body cross over from appreciation or art to erotica or any other form media.

I agree. I actually appreciate it more often in being artistic than erotic.

I suppose it becomes erotica when the purpose it serves you is primarily for arousal.

I find it very hard to talk to people about admiring a body, particularly a females body. If I talk about the body, and the body alone I am quickly seen as objectifying her. If I comment on the body in front of her then I'm harassing her. If I get caught studying the body I am pervert for looking.
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12/4/2010 7:13:51 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/4/2010 6:46:53 PM, fatdan33 wrote:
At 12/2/2010 8:45:58 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 12/2/2010 8:29:28 PM, fatdan33 wrote:
I have a deep appreciation for the human body. The more you study it the more incredible it seems. Its limits always pushed back another inch. I marvel at the human body, especially naked, with all its definition. when does naked body cross over from appreciation or art to erotica or any other form media.

I agree. I actually appreciate it more often in being artistic than erotic.

I suppose it becomes erotica when the purpose it serves you is primarily for arousal.

I find it very hard to talk to people about admiring a body, particularly a females body. If I talk about the body, and the body alone I am quickly seen as objectifying her. If I comment on the body in front of her then I'm harassing her. If I get caught studying the body I am pervert for looking.

That's funny.

This is because the female body belongs to a person that is very conscious of what people think of that body. So conscious, in fact, that she will hide it every single day, in some cases, even while she sleeps, so that no one can see it in its entirety and pass judgement. Furthermore, our society considers the knowledge of the appearance of someone's genitals carnal knowledge, and reacts accordingly. Therefore, unless a woman willingly shows you her body, she does not want to be looked or stared at. I don't blame her; I don't want people staring at me, either.

That said.

The female body is a brilliant work of art, if I've ever seen one. Having been invited to look at a woman, there is something about a woman's way, their interpretation of furtiveness, their innate proficiency in suggestion. Women are delicate in ways that men could only dream, and this helps fuel our lust. We call it "sexy," but it's any number of truly extraordinary things, such as how a woman's body has no sharp angles, how it's comprised of a series of circles counter to the squares that comprise the male body. And, don't even get me started on select characteristics, like eyes, lips, hands, and vaginas.
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12/4/2010 7:24:15 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/4/2010 7:13:51 PM, Ren wrote:
That's funny.

This is because the female body belongs to a person that is very conscious of what people think of that body. So conscious, in fact, that she will hide it every single day, in some cases, even while she sleeps, so that no one can see it in its entirety and pass judgement. Furthermore, our society considers the knowledge of the appearance of someone's genitals carnal knowledge, and reacts accordingly. Therefore, unless a woman willingly shows you her body, she does not want to be looked or stared at. I don't blame her; I don't want people staring at me, either.

That said.

The female body is a brilliant work of art, if I've ever seen one. Having been invited to look at a woman, there is something about a woman's way, their interpretation of furtiveness, their innate proficiency in suggestion. Women are delicate in ways that men could only dream, and this helps fuel our lust. We call it "sexy," but it's any number of truly extraordinary things, such as how a woman's body has no sharp angles, how it's comprised of a series of circles counter to the squares that comprise the male body. And, don't even get me started on select characteristics, like eyes, lips, hands, and vaginas.

Great post.
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12/5/2010 10:37:08 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
When you feel it in your body as well as see it with the Mind. The Mind is by far more beautiful when free from negative creations.

don't we strive to have our mind and body as one. So what one sees the other feels and vice verse.

We don't have to strive for that, they (the lower animal mind and sense) are already one, and the opposite poles of attraction are reciprocal - though there is a massive difference between natural arousal and lust! But the merging of of two Higher Minds on opposite poles of attraction can be overwhelming and leads to a kind of ecstasy, for want of a better term we call Love.
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12/5/2010 2:51:30 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/5/2010 10:37:08 AM, Ogan wrote:
When you feel it in your body as well as see it with the Mind. The Mind is by far more beautiful when free from negative creations.

don't we strive to have our mind and body as one. So what one sees the other feels and vice verse.

We don't have to strive for that, they (the lower animal mind and sense) are already one, and the opposite poles of attraction are reciprocal - though there is a massive difference between natural arousal and lust! But the merging of of two Higher Minds on opposite poles of attraction can be overwhelming and leads to a kind of ecstasy, for want of a better term we call Love.

I'm not sure if I agree with you or disagree. Could you try explaining your different levels of mind/body emotion/pole statement differently? I want to make sure I am on the same page as to what you're saying.
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12/6/2010 3:31:57 AM
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At 12/5/2010 2:51:30 PM, fatdan33 wrote:
At 12/5/2010 10:37:08 AM, Ogan wrote:
When you feel it in your body as well as see it with the Mind. The Mind is by far more beautiful when free from negative creations.

don't we strive to have our mind and body as one. So what one sees the other feels and vice verse.

We don't have to strive for that, they (the lower animal mind and sense) are already one, and the opposite poles of attraction are reciprocal - though there is a massive difference between natural arousal and lust! But the merging of of two Higher Minds on opposite poles of attraction can be overwhelming and leads to a kind of ecstasy, for want of a better term we call Love.

I'm not sure if I agree with you or disagree. Could you try explaining your different levels of mind/body emotion/pole statement differently? I want to make sure I am on the same page as to what you're saying.

Perhaps I misunderstood? The lower mind, body and senses act in unison in each person, and when 'opposites' meet they have a reciprocal attraction and sharing of thoughts, feelings etc., sometimes leading to procreation. The higher Mind is not accepted as a proven fact by science though evidence of it is all around - if we look.
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12/6/2010 5:49:54 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/6/2010 3:31:57 AM, Ogan wrote:
At 12/5/2010 2:51:30 PM, fatdan33 wrote:
At 12/5/2010 10:37:08 AM, Ogan wrote:
When you feel it in your body as well as see it with the Mind. The Mind is by far more beautiful when free from negative creations.

don't we strive to have our mind and body as one. So what one sees the other feels and vice verse.

We don't have to strive for that, they (the lower animal mind and sense) are already one, and the opposite poles of attraction are reciprocal - though there is a massive difference between natural arousal and lust! But the merging of of two Higher Minds on opposite poles of attraction can be overwhelming and leads to a kind of ecstasy, for want of a better term we call Love.

I'm not sure if I agree with you or disagree. Could you try explaining your different levels of mind/body emotion/pole statement differently? I want to make sure I am on the same page as to what you're saying.

Perhaps I misunderstood? The lower mind, body and senses act in unison in each person, and when 'opposites' meet they have a reciprocal attraction and sharing of thoughts, feelings etc., sometimes leading to procreation. The higher Mind is not accepted as a proven fact by science though evidence of it is all around - if we look.

Im still not sure if i agree with you. this sounds like it could be an insightful statement but i guess i dont fully understand what it is your trying to say about the body vs the mind or higher vs lower mind. it just seems a little vague. no offence, i do want to understand exactly what it is your trying to say about how we might admire (or any other emotion)
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12/7/2010 5:23:15 PM
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I think you should ignore what I said fatdan33, that is to say in relation to the 'physical body'. The reason I say this is because, in my experience, the true beauty of the opposite form can only be realised in a state of ecstatic Love. In this rare state of 'Unity', experienced by so few, the form perceived is then archetypal and beyond description. And yet, this same delight is at times both felt and semi-perceived by True Artists who are in Love with beautiful forms by a magical kind of higher mental attunement. But what I have said is so easy to disbelieve and open to abuse and mockery. On the other hand I care not. What is... IS.