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Ore_Ele
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2/17/2011 5:30:01 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Hey everyone,

We are charging through with the Intersite Debate Competition (IDC). What I'm going to need is one heck of a long list of Resolutions to take place in this competition.

Does anyone know of some good sites that just have lists of debatable resolutions? Or you can offer some individual resolutions here (by the way, I'm looking over a little over 100 possible resolutions).

Thanks,
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J.Kenyon
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2/17/2011 5:34:46 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/17/2011 5:30:01 PM, OreEle wrote:
Hey everyone,

We are charging through with the Intersite Debate Competition (IDC). What I'm going to need is one heck of a long list of Resolutions to take place in this competition.

Does anyone know of some good sites that just have lists of debatable resolutions? Or you can offer some individual resolutions here (by the way, I'm looking over a little over 100 possible resolutions).

Thanks,

I have, like, 20 resolutions listed here http://www.debate.org...
Ore_Ele
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2/17/2011 5:37:58 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/17/2011 5:34:46 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 2/17/2011 5:30:01 PM, OreEle wrote:
Hey everyone,

We are charging through with the Intersite Debate Competition (IDC). What I'm going to need is one heck of a long list of Resolutions to take place in this competition.

Does anyone know of some good sites that just have lists of debatable resolutions? Or you can offer some individual resolutions here (by the way, I'm looking over a little over 100 possible resolutions).

Thanks,

I have, like, 20 resolutions listed here http://www.debate.org...

Thank you,
"Wanting Red Rhino Pill to have gender"
BlackVoid
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2/17/2011 10:59:04 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
You can make all "Big issue" opinions listed on everyone's profile into a resolution.

Also, from a few ld topics I've done

Nuke weapons
Juveniles should be given adult punishments
Mandatory vaccinations
Plea bargains
Felon right to vote
Cororations same moral standards as individuals

Then some off the top of my head.

War in Afghanistan
US should/shouldn't aid Darfur.
Space Exploration vs Anything
Airport Security
Capitalism vs Socialism
Bad government vs No government
Morality objective vs subjective
Wikileaks
Utilitarianism vs Deontology
Obama
Donald Trump good/bad prez

Theres a few you could use. I can come up with specific resolutions if necessary.
Ore_Ele
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2/18/2011 10:06:33 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Thanks, what I'm going to do is come up with a list, then have each person file out whether they support Pro or Con and how strongly they feel about it (scale of 1 to 5), that way each debate can hopefully be something that they both disagree on and both feel a 4 or 5 on the subject.
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Puck
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2/19/2011 5:11:37 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/19/2011 4:52:14 AM, J.Kenyon wrote:
Do you think you could try to set up an intersite debate with the folks at RevLeft? That would be too much fun.

>.<
Danielle
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2/19/2011 11:10:31 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
As I mentioned in the other thread, I had a good idea/structure for a team debate competition on DDO, and maybe you'd like my idea regarding the way resolutions would be handled:

Essentially I'd have every participant submit at least five resolutions they'd be willing to debate in the tournament. The topics should be as fair and balanced as possible; in other words no topic that we can assume 75% of the site members or more would feel significantly biased in one way toward. The incentive to submit these resolutions as such is that (a) you never know which one you will get, (b) you never know which your teammate would get and (c) you wouldn't know if you'd be Pro or Con.

Now, suppose Team A was debating Team B. Team A would decide whom from their team was debating whom on the other team, and the captain would submit the final decision. The captain would also choose what resolution each pair was debating. However, the other team gets to choose who is Pro and who is Con on each debate for every resolution. That way, both teams get to strategize and have a say in what they're debating, sort of. For instance Team A might put PCP against a weak Atheist and choose a resolution about God. However Team B might respond by making PCP argue Con-God.

Anyway I have a lot of awesome ideas for the team thing like I said lol but this could be applied to the IDC too. One debater chooses a resolution from the list of submissions with the only stipulation being it can't be a topic either debater has done in the TOURNEY thus far. Then the other debater sides who is Pro and who is Con. Does this sound like a fair way to apply resolutions? Because I know Freeman said he wanted every pair to choose a topic for themselves; however, I tried that before and it was actually a huge pain. Besides, the whole point about being a good debater is being able to debate anything on any side, amirite?
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m93samman
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2/19/2011 11:19:03 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
http://en.wikipedia.org... ; list of past PF debate topics (scroll to the bottom)
http://www.nflonline.org... ; list of past LD topics since 1979 (all over page)

That should total to nearly 100
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Danielle
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2/19/2011 11:31:54 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
The problem is that our large capitalist population/judges are going to be heavily biased in favor of one side on many of the recent "official" debate resolutions. For instance, On balance, government employee labor unions have a positive impact on the United States. I pity da foo who has Pro. That's why I think since we know our community best, we should pick 5 resolutions we think have an equal shot (if someone makes great arguments) and again the incentive to ensure submission of such topics is that you dunno which one/side you'll get.
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Ore_Ele
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2/19/2011 12:08:17 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
The way the resolutions are going to be for the IDC is each person will receive the list of resolutions and say what side they would like and how strong they feel for it. So a resolution, "the privatization of our justice system would yield more accurate justice for the citizens."

Some people may support that and say "Pro 5" (the 5 being how strongly they feel that they could argue their side, on a 1 - 5 scale).
Some people may support it, but not really know a whole lot about it, and so say, "Pro 2."
Some may not support it and so say, "Con 5."

And before anyone says that this will encourage people to be extra selective. If we can't match up a pro 5 to con 5, the debater with the most 5's is more likely to get there 5, while their opponent (who was more selective and had less 5's) is more likely to get stuck with a 4 or 3.

This way, we can match up people with their strengths, to help ensure that debates are of the highest quality.

Personally, I'd not like the other way since there are somethings I just don't like debating (like religion for one), and it'd really put me off if I got stuck with that.
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Danielle
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2/19/2011 12:14:56 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Most people here have the same opinion on most things, OR will not be willing to debate something they know most others have a strong opinion for and will judge biasedly toward. I highly doubt that will work, but good luck...
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Danielle
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2/19/2011 12:17:54 PM
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In fact I very highly doubt it will work. Sorry just being honest.

OreEle let me ask you -- You are a self-proclaimed authoritarian. Do you want to debate J.Kenyon on libertarian ethics when the people judging the debate are going to 95% freedom loving capitalists? I highly doubt it. If this were a regular debate, I wouldn't care -- I've debated J.Kenyon on communism before. Fugg it. But if I was trying to win in a tournament, that's not a debate I'm going to agree on doing unless I have to. I think most people will feel the same.
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Danielle
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2/19/2011 12:18:46 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/19/2011 12:16:55 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
How about free will? That's a fairly neutral topic.

FML.

Nihilism is Vi's numero uno philosophical pet peeve; compatibilism is mine lol.
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Ore_Ele
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2/19/2011 12:20:10 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/19/2011 12:17:54 PM, Danielle wrote:
In fact I very highly doubt it will work. Sorry just being honest.

OreEle let me ask you -- You are a self-proclaimed authoritarian. Do you want to debate J.Kenyon on libertarian ethics when the people judging the debate are going to 95% freedom loving capitalists? I highly doubt it. If this were a regular debate, I wouldn't care -- I've debated J.Kenyon on communism before. Fugg it. But if I was trying to win in a tournament, that's not a debate I'm going to agree on doing unless I have to. I think most people will feel the same.

The IDC will have judges from all the sites (about 2-3 from each site). It is not going to be determined by the simple majority of DDO.
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Danielle
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2/19/2011 12:22:18 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/19/2011 12:20:10 PM, OreEle wrote:
The IDC will have judges from all the sites (about 2-3 from each site). It is not going to be determined by the simple majority of DDO.

Ohhh sorry! I forgot this was IDC (duh) -- I thought this was the same tourney Freeman was proposing for this site, and that you guys were working together. My bad. Anyway this is my first time hearing of this. Who are we challenging? When?
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Ore_Ele
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2/19/2011 12:44:33 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/19/2011 12:22:18 PM, Danielle wrote:
At 2/19/2011 12:20:10 PM, OreEle wrote:
The IDC will have judges from all the sites (about 2-3 from each site). It is not going to be determined by the simple majority of DDO.

Ohhh sorry! I forgot this was IDC (duh) -- I thought this was the same tourney Freeman was proposing for this site, and that you guys were working together. My bad. Anyway this is my first time hearing of this. Who are we challenging? When?

May,

it is going to be as many sites as I can. So far it is us and ODN. Maybe DCR (debatingchristianity.com), but we may have difficulties with that, since people cannot register from a proxy server (I could not register from home, work, or the public library). Askbob ended up registering for me (thanks again).

I'm also going to talk to revleft. I've also asked some other sites too.
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2/19/2011 12:51:51 PM
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I can create accounts for whoever can't register
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
Danielle
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2/19/2011 1:04:12 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/19/2011 12:51:51 PM, askbob wrote:
I can create accounts for whoever can't register

It would only be a problem if they didn't accept Vi and I from the same IP (if she even decides to participate, which I hope she does). I'm looking forward to it -- we should do something in the meantime though! Maybe that's what Freeman was talking about, haha.
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2/19/2011 3:09:27 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
This site (another school in my district) has TFA student congress dockets from the last three years 1 from 08-09 1 from 09-10 and four from this year.

http://sites.google.com...

some of the legislations are the same from year to year, but there are probably around 2 hundred topics... scroll down, links are on the left-hand side.
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2/20/2011 12:14:32 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/20/2011 12:07:47 AM, Puck wrote:
Can we have something a bit more entertaining than a LD list and a bunch of politic related debates. >.<

Ultimate Team War, perhaps?
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2/20/2011 12:20:05 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/20/2011 12:14:32 AM, mongeese wrote:
At 2/20/2011 12:07:47 AM, Puck wrote:
Can we have something a bit more entertaining than a LD list and a bunch of politic related debates. >.<

Ultimate Team War, perhaps?

Dude, totally. This way we could get sites that aren't debate sites
belle
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2/21/2011 12:59:14 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
or something more philosophical? i know people at ODN would go for it.... i was active there years ago... they come up with some fun topics!
evidently i only come to ddo to avoid doing homework...