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Freeman
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2/21/2011 11:54:14 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
As many of you are aware, I've been planning on setting up a debate tournament. I've already spoken with some of you to gauge what sort of interest there would be for something like this, and the results have been encouraging.

There won't be many rules, apart from what is generally expected of you. In short, everyone is expected to play nicely and to not be rude. Don't plagiarise, engage in semantics etc. The debaters will also be judges. And the votes that they give will only count for one. Obviously, no one will be allowed to vote on their own debate.

Unlike other debate tournaments, no one is going to force you to argue anything. You are perfectly free to argue anything that you wan't -- insofar as your debate partners agree to what you're proposing. (This seems to be the most popular set up.) Special care will go into making sure that people get paired into debate brackets that are ideologically diverse. At any rate, even two people of the same political or religious persuasion are bound to disagree on something. If you and your debate partner are unable to decide upon a topic, you will be assigned one.

As I have previously alluded to, there will be a bracket system that is set up. Each bracket will initially consist of four people.

Here is a brief illustration of how this will work.

Bracket A.
1. W ........ (W vs. X) W wins
2. X
3. Y .......... (Y vs. Z) Z Wins
4. Z

From here person W will face off against person Z -- in the debate that will determine the winner of this bracket. Subsequently, the winner of this bracket (A) will face the winner of bracket (B). And this will take place up to the finals. It's pretty straight forward. Those of you that watched the World Cup after the quarter finals will know how this works.

The number of brackets (and subsequently the number of debates until the finals) will depend on how many people sign up.

If you have ideas about how the tournament can be modified, feel free to let me know. This set up seems to be generally favored, but I'm still completely open to all ideas.

It is my hope that lots of people will sign up. The success of this tournament will depend in large part on whether or not we can get through the initial first round of debates. After we have everyone that is interested, the brackets will be set up. From there, you will be free to decide with your debate partners what you will be arguing about. If you're interested, please sign up below. I look forward to seeing all of you there, as I will also be a contestant.

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2/22/2011 12:02:24 AM
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Signing up.
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: At 6/22/2011 6:57:23 PM, el-badgero wrote:
: i didn't like [Obama]. he was the only black dude in moneygall yet he claimed to be home. obvious liar is obvious liar. i bet him and bin laden are bumfvcking right now.
Freeman
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2/22/2011 12:05:25 AM
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At 2/21/2011 11:54:14 PM, Freeman wrote:


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2/22/2011 1:10:35 AM
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2/22/2011 1:10:57 AM
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2/22/2011 7:26:46 AM
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2/22/2011 1:25:28 PM
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At 2/22/2011 7:26:46 AM, Sieben wrote:
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5. Grape
6. tvellalott
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2/22/2011 4:41:55 PM
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At 2/21/2011 11:54:14 PM, Freeman wrote:
If you have ideas about how the tournament can be modified, feel free to let me know. This set up seems to be generally favored, but I'm still completely open to all ideas.

mongeese did a science fair project about tournament set up and seeding. I'd talk to him.
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mongeese
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2/22/2011 5:18:12 PM
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1. Freeman
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5. Grape
6. tvellalott
7. Danielle
8. feverish
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11. Sieben
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2/22/2011 5:19:44 PM
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At 2/22/2011 4:41:55 PM, wjmelements wrote:
At 2/21/2011 11:54:14 PM, Freeman wrote:
If you have ideas about how the tournament can be modified, feel free to let me know. This set up seems to be generally favored, but I'm still completely open to all ideas.

mongeese did a science fair project about tournament set up and seeding. I'd talk to him.

The project was mostly comparing different ranking methods. Tournament was actually the least effective, but also the quickest, compared to the more complicated double ladder, single ladder, round robin, and accrual. The seeding was random, as the premise of the project was that no rankings were known.
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2/22/2011 5:22:17 PM
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His name's not on the sheet, but I'm fairly sure TheSkeptic wanted to be in the tournament (already planned a debate with him for Round 1).
Should we subsidize education?
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http://lewrockwell.com...

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: At 6/22/2011 6:57:23 PM, el-badgero wrote:
: i didn't like [Obama]. he was the only black dude in moneygall yet he claimed to be home. obvious liar is obvious liar. i bet him and bin laden are bumfvcking right now.
TUF
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2/22/2011 5:23:22 PM
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1. Freeman
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5. Grape
6. tvellalott
7. Danielle
8. feverish
9. badger
10. J.Kenyon
11. Sieben
12. usaf
13. mongeese
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Danielle
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2/22/2011 6:14:27 PM
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Suggestion -- It could be helpful if we each create a little list of resolutions that we'd like to debate, along with which side we'd defend. That way when we get paired with our partner, we can exchange lists to have an idea about where to start regarding potential topics. For instance, mine might look something like this:

Politics

Abortion is prima facie morally wrong - Con
Drugs should be legalized - Pro

Philosophy

Objectivism fails to describe an adequate meta-ethical answer for the is-ought problem - Con
Determinism accurately describes reality - Pro

Science

Global warming exists - Pro

Arts/Entertainment

...

etc. etc.

We can make our lists as long or short as we want, as a starting point.
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J.Kenyon
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2/22/2011 6:33:29 PM
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Economics

All medical licensing should be abolished - Pro
The FDA should be abolished - Pro
On balance, minimum wage laws do more harm than good - Pro
On balance, equal pay laws do more harm than good - Pro
The Federal Reserve System should be abolished - Pro

Politics

Representative democracy is a just system of government - Con
On balance, anarchism is more humanitarian than state planning - Pro
All government is illegitimate - Pro

Philosophy

Free will is compatible with determinism - Pro
Utilitarianism is a sound ethical system - Con
Materialism accurately describes reality - Pro
Ethical naturalism is sound - Pro

DDO

The user known as "TUF" should be permanently banned - Pro
Danielle
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2/22/2011 7:14:52 PM
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At 2/22/2011 6:33:29 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
Free will is compatible with determinism - Pro

This is like a trick question. It'd essentially be a debate based solely on semantics. Of course free will is compatible with determinism; all you have to do is define free will so it can be as such! A hard determinist would have no reason to take this, so you'd only be able to debate one who believed in libertarian free will. So, you should probably just make the resolution "Libertarian free will is false."
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2/22/2011 7:20:05 PM
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I'll join.
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2/22/2011 7:21:20 PM
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At 2/22/2011 4:38:56 PM, wjmelements wrote:
16 is probably the best place to cut the line.

Sixteen and 32 are the ideal numbers, but I doubt we'll get to those two precisely.

I've thought of a way to keep it in between those two and still have all the math work out.
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