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KRFournier
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3/20/2011 11:28:36 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Is it just me, or are 5 Round debates becoming the new norm? I have been off the site for a while, and now I seem to see them everywhere. I understand that, occasionally, 5 Round debates are useful for certain topics that a very deep. I am engaged in one right now, though it reminds me why I dislike them so much. Arguments get repetitive and it's really hard to get any readers.

What are other opinions regarding 5 round debates? Do you vote on them? Do you avoid them? Do you like debating in them?
TUF
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3/20/2011 3:41:58 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/20/2011 11:28:36 AM, KRFournier wrote:
What are other opinions regarding 5 round debates?

Depends on the topic. Alot of times five rounders have introductory and non closing arguments, so its not always to bad.

Do you vote on them?

If it is interesting enough to read I suppose.

Do you avoid them?

Not neccesarily.

Do you like debating in them?

Depends. If its an interesting topic with a good opponent.
But like you said, sometimes people just repeat arguments For the extra two rounds.
It can be vexing at times.
I'm doing two 5 round video debates though. They don't seem to be as boring, and I find myself excited to do them.
Being able to speak rather type, and view rather than read is definitely easier, and more fun. I reccomend them to anyone.
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Zealous1
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3/20/2011 4:39:55 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I like doing 5 round debates so that my argument is completely clarified by the end. I hate when I lose b/c people don't understand what I mean.
KRFournier
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3/21/2011 12:49:31 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
TUF, you make a good point about using 5 rounds under certain constraints. It would be cool to see this:

Round 1: Opening Arguments
Round 2: Rebuttals, no new arguments
Round 3: 3 Questions to opponent
Round 4: Answer questions.
Round 5: Closing Arguments, no new arguments.

It challanges people to be clear from the start or suffer loss of votes. It engages the reader in different ways.

I might try this sometime.
Ore_Ele
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3/21/2011 12:51:52 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I prefer 4 rounds, so you have your opening, 2 rounds to actually debate, than 1 to summarize at the end.

I haven't seen too many 5 rounders recently, but then I'm happy to see that the number of debates has dropped a bit. That time when there was always 7+ debates waiting for a challanger seemed off a bit.
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Sottaceti
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3/21/2011 12:52:29 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I tend to avoid 5 round debates because of their repetition, though if it's a free win I'll take it up as soon as I see it.
Ore_Ele
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3/21/2011 12:54:42 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/21/2011 12:52:29 PM, Sottaceti wrote:
I tend to avoid 5 round debates because of their repetition, though if it's a free win I'll take it up as soon as I see it.

... INB4 askbob.
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nonentity
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3/21/2011 12:56:09 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
It depends on the debate. I think the first round is useful for definitions only. Otherwise you get tangled up in a semantical argument. Most could probably work with 4 rounds.

Pro---Round 1---Statement of resolution and definitions
Con---Round 1---Acceptance/revision of definitions

Pro---Round 2---Argument
Con---Round 2---Rebuttal and Argument

Pro---Round 3---Defense and Rebuttal
Con---Round 3---Defense and Rebuttal

Pro---Round 4---Defense/Rebuttal/Closing remarks (no new arguments)
Con---Round 4---Defense/Rebuttal/Closing remarks (no new arguments)
Sottaceti
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3/21/2011 12:58:39 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/21/2011 12:56:09 PM, nonentity wrote:
It depends on the debate. I think the first round is useful for definitions only. Otherwise you get tangled up in a semantical argument. Most could probably work with 4 rounds.

Pro---Round 1---Statement of resolution and definitions
Con---Round 1---Acceptance/revision of definitions

Pro---Round 2---Argument
Con---Round 2---Rebuttal and Argument

Pro---Round 3---Defense and Rebuttal
Con---Round 3---Defense and Rebuttal

Pro---Round 4---Defense/Rebuttal/Closing remarks (no new arguments)
Con---Round 4---Defense/Rebuttal/Closing remarks (no new arguments)

This is a sound system to me. Not too form fitting - it allows a comfortable amount of wiggle room, while still retaining the integrity of a debate's heart. I'm really liking what changes are being suggested here as of late (that I've noticed, anyway).