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4/19/2011 9:43:22 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I have this vision for a new way to argue our favorite old wedge issue debates. The end result will be a tournament of sorts organized by me. Let me explain the details

Have you ever notice how when debating in the forums if you ever get in the zone for arguing and with a good opponent too your debate will ‘bracket' in your post, where the top part of your post are arguments for one issue often discussed for the debate resolution you are kind of arguing for or against in the forum and at the bottom are separate issues that are not dependant on the top one necessarily but still related to the OP topic. Below is an example of an argument you might find in the forums for the topic of YEC Vs Darwinism.
The age secular scientist base the earth on is circular reasoning, dating the fossils by the layer of strata there in and the layers are dated by the index fossils.
That's not how there dated you moron, there dated by carbon dating
Carbon dating is flawed do to the equilibrium problem.
the equilibrium problem is flawed because Kent Hovind made it up and he is bad at math.
and natural selection cannot create anything, it just selects from what is already there, it cant add new information
have you ever heard of ‘mutations', they happen all the time, its an observed fact.
no mutations have ever been observed to be beneficial, how can birth defects lead to an evolving race?
there have too just check out talk origins.org
and all these mutations only do something with information that the species already had, there's never new information
yes there is
plus everything shows signs of design
you mean like the useless vestigial organs of the appendix, or our tail bone ?
those are not useless, the appendix is part of your immune system, and there are nine fairly important muscles attached the C4 but if you think that bone is vestigial I gladly pay to have yours removed. ;)
No thanks, I forgot about my favorite muscle being attached there until just now

If you look closely that debate over evolution got to the point that really there were three broader categories that are worthy of debates all to themselves, not just be points in a single debate. The debate over geologic dating methods, the debate over vestigial organs, the debate on the limits of genetic mutations.
My debate tournament will take a debate like this and form teams, with a person from each team assigned too each of the separate sub-debates the larger debates often brake down into. Then a final debate where a member from the teams use no sources but the previous debates to make a case for what all those sub-debates mean for the overall issue.
My first Great Debate tournament like this will be on the issue of abortion. The sub-abortion-issue debates will have the following resolutions to be Pro and Con to….
1) It's a life at conception
2) Abortion is a necessary measure of Birth Control
3)Adoption is always a better alternative to abortion
4) No law should regulate a woman's choice to have an abortion or not.

Then the final conclusion debate.

Now I know this topic could probably be broken down to more sub-issues than that to debate over, but this is the first time I am trying to hold a tournament like this, and the first tournament I am trying to hold period. So a tournament with 5 debates is all I really want to hold right now.

I need at least 8 people to sign up, 4 to each team, but I can make it work with 5 on a team. If you wish to participate you need to change your settings so I can PM you or not change them and friend me so that I can PM you. Once teams choose who will take each sub-topic I will assign who gets the responsibility to issue a debate challenge and get the opening round.

To sign up I do have one requirement, that you have at least 3 debates under you belt without any forfeited rounds to show me you will not be a ‘crash and burn' debater, and can commit to completing a debate without your account being deactivated.

When the tournament is finished, I will post results, and I would really like, if I can get two volunteers that are not signed up on either team, to be the ‘FOX debate analyst' and the ‘MSNBC debate analyst'. Basically it will be your job to critique the arguments how all the teams debates went individually and as a whole, and to slant your critique to make the outcome sound in favor of one team in particular. You will be allowed to see the post in each teams PM thread, but asked not to comment in them. You post your slanted critique in the results thread I make when the tournament is over. Whether I can get anyone to volunteer for this, I myself will try very hard to post an objective critique of my own without any slant.
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4/19/2011 9:47:26 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Pro Abortion Team: Con-Abortion Team:
1)______________ 1)_____________
2)______________ 2)_____________
3)______________ 3)_____________
4)______________ 4)_____________
5)______________ 5)_____________

MSNBC analyst:____________
Fox analyst:_______________
One act of Rebellion created all the darkness and evil in the world; One life of Total Obedience created a path back to eternity and God.

A Scout is Obedient.
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4/19/2011 9:51:16 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
oh, one more thing. The first 4 debates of the tournament will be 3 rounds and the last one will be 5. all debates will have max character limits, max time to post, comments mandatory with vote, and week long voting period.
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4/19/2011 9:51:28 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/19/2011 9:47:26 PM, Marauder wrote:
Pro Abortion Team: Con-Abortion Team:
1)______________ 1)_____________
2)______________ 2)_____________
3)______________ 3)_____________
4)______________ 4)_____________
5)______________ 5)_____________

MSNBC analyst:____________
Fox analyst:_______________

I'll take an analyst spot, but you also may want to define "abortion" and most anti-abortion individuals are not against all forms of abortion.
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4/19/2011 9:51:45 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/19/2011 9:47:26 PM, Marauder wrote:
Pro Abortion Team: Con-Abortion Team:
1)Socialpinko______1)_____________
2)______________ 2)_____________
3)______________ 3)_____________
4)______________ 4)_____________
5)______________ 5)_____________

MSNBC analyst:____________
Fox analyst:_______________
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4/19/2011 10:00:20 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/19/2011 9:51:28 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 4/19/2011 9:47:26 PM, Marauder wrote:
Pro Abortion Team: Con-Abortion Team:
1)______________ 1)_____________
2)______________ 2)_____________
3)______________ 3)_____________
4)______________ 4)_____________
5)______________ 5)_____________

MSNBC analyst:____________
Fox analyst:_______________

I'll take an analyst spot,
which spot you want?
but you also may want to define "abortion" and most anti-abortion individuals are not against all forms of abortion.

True. I guess it would make it easier for any anti-abortionist to sign up if abortion was defined only for the late term, but because how early 'it gains a soul' is argued varies from person to person, I think it would make it simpler to define it abortion as aborting the child at conception for the tournament.
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4/19/2011 10:03:35 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/19/2011 10:00:20 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 4/19/2011 9:51:28 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 4/19/2011 9:47:26 PM, Marauder wrote:
Pro Abortion Team: Con-Abortion Team:
1)______________ 1)_____________
2)______________ 2)_____________
3)______________ 3)_____________
4)______________ 4)_____________
5)______________ 5)_____________

MSNBC analyst:____________
Fox analyst:_______________

I'll take an analyst spot,
which spot you want?
but you also may want to define "abortion" and most anti-abortion individuals are not against all forms of abortion.

True. I guess it would make it easier for any anti-abortionist to sign up if abortion was defined only for the late term, but because how early 'it gains a soul' is argued varies from person to person, I think it would make it simpler to define it abortion as aborting the child at conception for the tournament.

sign me up for anything except analyst
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4/19/2011 10:04:25 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/19/2011 10:03:35 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 4/19/2011 10:00:20 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 4/19/2011 9:51:28 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 4/19/2011 9:47:26 PM, Marauder wrote:
Pro Abortion Team: Con-Abortion Team:
1)______________ 1)headphonegut
2)______________ 2)_____________
3)______________ 3)_____________
4)______________ 4)_____________
5)______________ 5)_____________

MSNBC analyst:____________
Fox analyst:_______________

I'll take an analyst spot,
which spot you want?
but you also may want to define "abortion" and most anti-abortion individuals are not against all forms of abortion.

True. I guess it would make it easier for any anti-abortionist to sign up if abortion was defined only for the late term, but because how early 'it gains a soul' is argued varies from person to person, I think it would make it simpler to define it abortion as aborting the child at conception for the tournament.

sign me up for anything except analyst
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4/19/2011 10:07:08 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/19/2011 9:47:26 PM, Marauder wrote:
Pro Abortion Team: Con-Abortion Team:
1)Socialpinko______1)CiRrK______
2)headphonegut___ 2)_____________
3)______________ 3)_____________
4)______________ 4)_____________
5)______________ 5)_____________

MSNBC analyst:____________
Fox analyst:OreEle______
One act of Rebellion created all the darkness and evil in the world; One life of Total Obedience created a path back to eternity and God.

A Scout is Obedient.
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4/19/2011 10:10:08 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/19/2011 10:04:25 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 4/19/2011 10:03:35 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 4/19/2011 10:00:20 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 4/19/2011 9:51:28 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 4/19/2011 9:47:26 PM, Marauder wrote:
Pro Abortion Team: Con-Abortion Team:
1)______________ 1)headphonegut
2)______________ 2)_____________
3)______________ 3)_____________
4)______________ 4)_____________
5)______________ 5)_____________

MSNBC analyst:____________
Fox analyst:_______________

I'll take an analyst spot,
which spot you want?
but you also may want to define "abortion" and most anti-abortion individuals are not against all forms of abortion.

True. I guess it would make it easier for any anti-abortionist to sign up if abortion was defined only for the late term, but because how early 'it gains a soul' is argued varies from person to person, I think it would make it simpler to define it abortion as aborting the child at conception for the tournament.

sign me up for anything except analyst

you wanted to be con? I fix that in my list below.
One act of Rebellion created all the darkness and evil in the world; One life of Total Obedience created a path back to eternity and God.

A Scout is Obedient.
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4/19/2011 10:11:31 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/19/2011 10:07:08 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 4/19/2011 9:47:26 PM, Marauder wrote:
Pro Abortion Team: Con-Abortion Team:
1)Socialpinko______1)CiRrK______
2)______________ 2)headphonegut
3)______________ 3)_____________
4)______________ 4)_____________
5)______________ 5)_____________

MSNBC analyst:____________
Fox analyst:OreEle______
One act of Rebellion created all the darkness and evil in the world; One life of Total Obedience created a path back to eternity and God.

A Scout is Obedient.
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4/19/2011 10:11:41 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/19/2011 10:07:08 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 4/19/2011 9:47:26 PM, Marauder wrote:
Pro Abortion Team: Con-Abortion Team:
1)Socialpinko______1)CiRrK______
2)headphonegut___ 2)_____________
3)______________ 3)_____________
4)______________ 4)_____________
5)______________ 5)_____________

MSNBC analyst:____________
Fox analyst:OreEle______

number 2 that sounds insanely insane. Lol should be fun
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4/19/2011 10:12:17 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/19/2011 10:07:08 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 4/19/2011 9:47:26 PM, Marauder wrote:
Pro Abortion Team: Con-Abortion Team:
1)Socialpinko______1)CiRrK______
2)headphonegut___ 2)darkkermit
3)______________ 3)_____________
4)______________ 4)_____________
5)______________ 5)_____________

MSNBC analyst:____________
Fox analyst:OreEle______
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4/19/2011 10:13:41 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/19/2011 10:11:31 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 4/19/2011 10:07:08 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 4/19/2011 9:47:26 PM, Marauder wrote:
Pro Abortion Team: Con-Abortion Team:
1)Socialpinko______1)CiRrK______
2)______________ 2)headphonegut
3)______________ 3)_____________
4)______________ 4)_____________
5)______________ 5)_____________

MSNBC analyst:____________
Fox analyst:OreEle______

no it's fine
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4/19/2011 10:14:13 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/19/2011 10:12:17 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 4/19/2011 10:07:08 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 4/19/2011 9:47:26 PM, Marauder wrote:
Pro Abortion Team: Con-Abortion Team:
1)Socialpinko______1)CiRrK______
2)headphonegut___ 2)darkkermit
3)______________ 3)_____________
4)______________ 4)_____________
5)______________ 5)_____________

MSNBC analyst:____________
Fox analyst:OreEle______

current list BTW
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4/19/2011 10:15:11 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/19/2011 10:11:41 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 4/19/2011 10:07:08 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 4/19/2011 9:47:26 PM, Marauder wrote:
Pro Abortion Team: Con-Abortion Team:
1)Socialpinko______1)CiRrK______
2)headphonegut___ 2)_____________
3)______________ 3)_____________
4)______________ 4)_____________
5)______________ 5)_____________

MSNBC analyst:____________
Fox analyst:OreEle______

number 2 that sounds insanely insane. Lol should be fun

this is just sign up for teams, the numbers dont have to correlate with the order I listed the debate topics, once teams are made the teams can agree on who they want to tackle each topic and who they want to take the final conclusion debate.
One act of Rebellion created all the darkness and evil in the world; One life of Total Obedience created a path back to eternity and God.

A Scout is Obedient.
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4/19/2011 10:16:13 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/19/2011 10:15:11 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 4/19/2011 10:11:41 PM, headphonegut wrote:
At 4/19/2011 10:07:08 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 4/19/2011 9:47:26 PM, Marauder wrote:
Pro Abortion Team: Con-Abortion Team:
1)Socialpinko______1)CiRrK______
2)headphonegut___ 2)_____________
3)______________ 3)_____________
4)______________ 4)_____________
5)______________ 5)_____________

MSNBC analyst:____________
Fox analyst:OreEle______

number 2 that sounds insanely insane. Lol should be fun

this is just sign up for teams, the numbers dont have to correlate with the order I listed the debate topics, once teams are made the teams can agree on who they want to tackle each topic and who they want to take the final conclusion debate.

AHH ok that's great actually
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4/19/2011 10:19:04 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
'Adoption is always a better alternative to abortion'

I want to take the Con position to this one.
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4/19/2011 10:21:39 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/19/2011 10:16:21 PM, ccstate4peat wrote:
I'd take analyst, but I'd rather be Fox than MSNBC

Pro Abortion Team: Con-Abortion Team:
1)Socialpinko______1)CiRrK______
2)headphonegut___ 2)darkkermit
3)______________ 3)_____________
4)______________ 4)_____________
5)______________ 5)_____________

MSNBC analyst:____________
Fox analyst:OreEle, ccstate4peat

I see no reason there cant be lost's of analyst, the news is full of them and makes it work.
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4/19/2011 10:22:44 PM
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Ok the titles of each section are getting me confused. Am I Con abortion, namely Pro it is a life at conception, or am I Con to the topic it is a life at conception?
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4/19/2011 10:24:43 PM
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At 4/19/2011 10:22:44 PM, CiRrK wrote:
Ok the titles of each section are getting me confused. Am I Con abortion, namely Pro it is a life at conception, or am I Con to the topic it is a life at conception?
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4/19/2011 10:26:18 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/19/2011 10:22:44 PM, CiRrK wrote:
Ok the titles of each section are getting me confused. Am I Con abortion, namely Pro it is a life at conception, or am I Con to the topic it is a life at conception?

you are on the Con to abortion team. should you and your team choose to agree that you get to debate the 'it's a life at conception' resolution I will put you appropriately on the 'Pro' to that resolution.
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A Scout is Obedient.
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4/19/2011 10:30:38 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/19/2011 10:26:18 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 4/19/2011 10:22:44 PM, CiRrK wrote:
Ok the titles of each section are getting me confused. Am I Con abortion, namely Pro it is a life at conception, or am I Con to the topic it is a life at conception?

you are on the Con to abortion team. should you and your team choose to agree that you get to debate the 'it's a life at conception' resolution I will put you appropriately on the 'Pro' to that resolution.

Alright cool
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4/19/2011 11:58:42 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/19/2011 10:00:20 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 4/19/2011 9:51:28 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 4/19/2011 9:47:26 PM, Marauder wrote:
Pro Abortion Team: Con-Abortion Team:
1)______________ 1)_____________
2)______________ 2)_____________
3)______________ 3)_____________
4)______________ 4)_____________
5)______________ 5)_____________

MSNBC analyst:____________
Fox analyst:_______________

I'll take an analyst spot,
which spot you want?

I guess the "FOX" spot is more accurate for me. But do I have to try to be "FOX" or can I be myself?
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4/20/2011 10:08:39 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/19/2011 11:58:42 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 4/19/2011 10:00:20 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 4/19/2011 9:51:28 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 4/19/2011 9:47:26 PM, Marauder wrote:
Pro Abortion Team: Con-Abortion Team:
1)______________ 1)_____________
2)______________ 2)_____________
3)______________ 3)_____________
4)______________ 4)_____________
5)______________ 5)_____________

MSNBC analyst:____________
Fox analyst:_______________

I'll take an analyst spot,
which spot you want?

I guess the "FOX" spot is more accurate for me. But do I have to try to be "FOX" or can I be myself?

just be yourself, you don't have to 'bill oriely' or anything like that. I just label it 'the Fox analyst' to show you will be critiquing the debates with an agenda to support the conservative side of the issue like fox does. whoever wants the MSNBC spot would critique as if they had a agenda to support the team on the liberal side of the issue.
One act of Rebellion created all the darkness and evil in the world; One life of Total Obedience created a path back to eternity and God.

A Scout is Obedient.
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4/20/2011 10:12:28 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/19/2011 11:46:29 PM, Grape wrote:
I will take spot number four, "No law should regulate a woman's right to have an abortion" in support of that resolution.

Pro Abortion Team: Con-Abortion Team:
1)Socialpinko______1)CiRrK______
2)headphonegut___ 2)darkkermit
3)Grape__________ 3)_____________
4)______________ 4)_____________
5)______________ 5)_____________

MSNBC analyst:____________
Fox analyst:OreEle, ccstate4peat

again the spots don't match up to any debates. one the teams are formed you can argue with your team that you need to take the debate your interested in. But don't worry, it does not look like their will be much conflicting interest so far.
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4/20/2011 10:15:22 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/20/2011 10:08:39 AM, Marauder wrote:
At 4/19/2011 11:58:42 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 4/19/2011 10:00:20 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 4/19/2011 9:51:28 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 4/19/2011 9:47:26 PM, Marauder wrote:
Pro Abortion Team: Con-Abortion Team:
1)______________ 1)_____________
2)______________ 2)_____________
3)______________ 3)_____________
4)______________ 4)_____________
5)______________ 5)_____________

MSNBC analyst:____________
Fox analyst:_______________

I'll take an analyst spot,
which spot you want?

I guess the "FOX" spot is more accurate for me. But do I have to try to be "FOX" or can I be myself?

just be yourself, you don't have to 'bill oriely' or anything like that. I just label it 'the Fox analyst' to show you will be critiquing the debates with an agenda to support the conservative side of the issue like fox does. whoever wants the MSNBC spot would critique as if they had a agenda to support the team on the liberal side of the issue.

since another person showed interest in being a fox analyst also, if you dont want to critique with any agenda (fun as I think doing that sounds) I could just make a third analyst spot for you 'CNN' and you can critique neutrally, if you want that.
One act of Rebellion created all the darkness and evil in the world; One life of Total Obedience created a path back to eternity and God.

A Scout is Obedient.